1 00:02:41,110 --> 00:01:10,469 so 2 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:43,830 greetings and salutations friends and 3 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:46,319 welcome back to truth seekers 4 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:50,400 today we are going on a fun journey 5 00:02:55,750 --> 00:02:53,440 into an enduring mystery 6 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:55,760 but before we do that i have some 7 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:58,080 comments on our previous coverage of 8 00:03:00,790 --> 00:02:59,440 this 9 00:03:04,149 --> 00:03:00,800 s4 10 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:04,159 nothing burger of a story 11 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:04,959 because 12 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:06,560 tonight we're going to be covering an 13 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:09,599 enduring mystery but it seems like 14 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:12,080 some people are covering something 15 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:13,519 that shouldn't have been a mystery at 16 00:03:23,589 --> 00:03:21,830 so before we begin tonight's 17 00:03:26,149 --> 00:03:23,599 presentation i have some notes on our 18 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:26,159 recent coverage of this s4 story or 19 00:03:30,309 --> 00:03:27,920 better perhaps to say this nothing 20 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:30,319 burger of of a story 21 00:03:34,309 --> 00:03:32,159 because from the beginning i said that 22 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,319 this was a nothing burger but people 23 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:36,720 stuck to their guns doubled down triple 24 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:39,120 down and did whatever metal gymnastics 25 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:40,480 they had to 26 00:03:46,869 --> 00:03:43,280 to continue selling the story as real or 27 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,879 true or even relevant now there's some 28 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:48,799 rules to what you do when you're caught 29 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:51,280 pedaling a fake story first don't admit 30 00:03:55,429 --> 00:03:53,040 you were wrong first rule of running 31 00:03:57,589 --> 00:03:55,439 with fake stories never admit 32 00:03:59,990 --> 00:03:57,599 that you even may have been wrong just 33 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:00,000 double down triple down make whatever 34 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:03,120 excuses you have to in order to make all 35 00:04:06,869 --> 00:04:04,799 those pieces fit 36 00:04:09,830 --> 00:04:06,879 make whatever excuses you have to for 37 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:09,840 lack of evidence keep speculating keep 38 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:12,480 doing those metal gymnastics triple down 39 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:14,640 quadruple down if you have to 40 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:15,920 anything 41 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:17,199 goes 42 00:04:21,749 --> 00:04:20,239 in order to keep that story going 43 00:04:23,909 --> 00:04:21,759 and 44 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:23,919 you have to be willing to do anything 45 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:26,240 to not have to admit it was fake and a 46 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:28,560 big fat nothing burger with a side of 47 00:04:33,749 --> 00:04:31,280 [\h__\h] fries to go with it 48 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:33,759 now i talked about this on my twitter 49 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:35,120 thread today 50 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:36,639 uh please follow me it's at 51 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:38,560 stevencambian on twitter or just 52 00:04:43,030 --> 00:04:40,880 stevencambian on facebook 53 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:43,040 now the twitter thread i said that many 54 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:45,040 people have proven that you can label 55 00:04:49,270 --> 00:04:47,120 anything on google maps 56 00:04:51,749 --> 00:04:49,280 or google earth anything you want people 57 00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:51,759 have proven ways to add a government pin 58 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:53,680 someone keeps reporting these and they 59 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:55,759 keep getting removed someone also 60 00:04:59,270 --> 00:04:57,680 removed last year's reddit thread on 61 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:59,280 this location 62 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:01,360 uh and by the way as of yesterday the 63 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:03,600 reddit thread was removed as of just 64 00:05:07,749 --> 00:05:05,520 before this broadcast it's magically 65 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:07,759 back after i pointed out that somebody 66 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:09,199 removed it 67 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:12,400 live chats in many shows that were 68 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:14,560 talking about this story are currently 69 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:18,560 being censored also that's right 70 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:20,800 and my question is why censor your live 71 00:05:25,830 --> 00:05:22,720 chats and stop people from showing their 72 00:05:27,909 --> 00:05:25,840 evidence this my friends is how a hoax 73 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:27,919 comes crashing down like a house of 74 00:05:37,510 --> 00:05:34,469 as most hoaxes and fake stories people 75 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:37,520 get caught pushing as something more go 76 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:40,080 they will ride it as long as they can 77 00:05:44,390 --> 00:05:41,759 but once the evidence that's a fake 78 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:44,400 story propped up by criminals or other 79 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:47,120 shoddy evidence and the pressure that 80 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:48,560 this is a fake story becomes 81 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:51,120 overwhelming they will scurry away and 82 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:53,759 make excuses 83 00:05:57,670 --> 00:05:56,080 but never admit they're wrong 84 00:05:59,909 --> 00:05:57,680 the people pushing the story have 85 00:06:01,670 --> 00:05:59,919 censored their live chats anyone 86 00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:01,680 expressing doubt or bringing up these 87 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:04,479 important counterpoints got timed out or 88 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:07,199 banned as of yesterday uh and i have the 89 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:09,520 screenshot to prove that 90 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:11,600 and i would submit to you friends that 91 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:13,759 if you need an echo chamber just so that 92 00:06:17,909 --> 00:06:15,919 you could be right chances are you're 93 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:17,919 wrong 94 00:06:22,309 --> 00:06:20,639 it's also important 95 00:06:25,270 --> 00:06:22,319 integrity matters 96 00:06:27,749 --> 00:06:25,280 the integrity of witnesses matter 97 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:27,759 but my friends the person who discovered 98 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:28,880 this 99 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:31,120 s4 story first of all he had to draw 100 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:33,360 12-foot hangar bay doors on the adjacent 101 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,360 mountain 102 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:37,440 12-foot hangar bay doors how are you 103 00:06:41,909 --> 00:06:39,840 getting a 52-foot diameter spacecraft in 104 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:41,919 and out of 12-foot hangar bay doors but 105 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:44,000 these are the metal gymnastics that the 106 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:46,240 people still pushing this story 107 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:49,120 have to do and convince their audience 108 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:52,160 of somehow i don't know how that works 109 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:55,120 still the people pushing this story 110 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:56,960 will continue to do new mental 111 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:58,479 gymnastics to make it fit their 112 00:07:02,150 --> 00:06:59,919 narrative 113 00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:02,160 i said integrity matters integrity of 114 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:03,280 witnesses 115 00:07:07,189 --> 00:07:05,440 and sources matter but some people don't 116 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:07,199 care to vet any source they use 117 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:09,680 criminals whatever the person who was 118 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:11,360 used to push this story the man who 119 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:13,520 discovered it has an extensive 120 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:16,160 long criminal history and a history of 121 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:19,840 fraud including allegedly even faking 122 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,160 terminal brain cancer 123 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:24,560 and then stealing gift cards from his 124 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:29,280 own cancer benefit people ran for him 125 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:32,160 the original video that i covered gotcha 126 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:34,560 s4 discovered on google earth just like 127 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:37,680 bob lazar said 20 20 21 128 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:39,680 sorry 2021 129 00:07:43,909 --> 00:07:41,440 is comical 130 00:07:46,629 --> 00:07:43,919 this story is propped up by nothing but 131 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:46,639 a label on google that no one knows who 132 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:47,840 put there 133 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:54,390 and a description 134 00:07:59,110 --> 00:07:56,879 and so-called government pin that 135 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:59,120 someone no one knows who entered into 136 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:01,120 google maps 137 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:03,599 besides this alien scientist and i both 138 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:06,639 proved that this location bears zero 139 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:09,520 resemblance to what bob describes 140 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:10,400 so 141 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:13,039 this is where we're at with that story 142 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,280 friends 143 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:17,039 so i'm trying to be done with this 144 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:19,280 laughable joke this nothing burger story 145 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:20,879 spread by peddlers of garbage 146 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:22,080 information 147 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:24,000 i'm gonna tap out here 148 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:27,599 of this nonsense but now uh-oh 149 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:29,440 i just got a new briefing friends 150 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:31,520 there's new information that's right 151 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:33,200 right i could say that other guys use 152 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:35,120 that right i'm getting briefings i'm 153 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:37,919 getting new briefings a new intel that's 154 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:40,959 right new intel is coming in 155 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:42,240 today 156 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:46,320 we got new intel friends 157 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:48,320 and the intel doesn't look good for the 158 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:49,760 peddlers of 159 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:52,560 uh fake garbage stories 160 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:54,160 it would appear my friends that the 161 00:08:59,430 --> 00:08:56,480 chicony star fleet and 162 00:09:01,350 --> 00:08:59,440 the reptilian aliens have teamed up 163 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:01,360 with the human critical thinkers on 164 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:04,480 planet earth and they're all invading 165 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:06,560 former safe spaces for peddling fake 166 00:09:10,870 --> 00:09:09,120 stories they are giving people facts in 167 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:10,880 the live chats 168 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:12,640 they are giving people evidence in the 169 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:14,959 live chats that shows what a nothing 170 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:17,440 burger joke this story is and you know 171 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:19,040 what they get for trying to bring people 172 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:22,959 the truth they get blocked or muted 173 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,200 you see the people peddling this story 174 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:27,360 have determined that these human 175 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:29,600 critical thinkers coming on our live 176 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:31,279 chats with these facts and this evidence 177 00:09:35,670 --> 00:09:33,200 we can't have this okay 178 00:09:38,949 --> 00:09:35,680 they must be stopped at all cost 179 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:38,959 or this nothing burger of a story this 180 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:41,920 what i believe to be a hoax will come 181 00:09:47,829 --> 00:09:44,560 crumbling down like the house of cards 182 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:47,839 it truly is but don't worry don't worry 183 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:50,160 friends there's still hope to save this 184 00:09:56,710 --> 00:09:54,000 s4 hoax story there's still hope friends 185 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:56,720 the draconian star fleet must be here 186 00:10:02,829 --> 00:09:58,399 invasion has begun 187 00:10:02,839 --> 00:10:10,150 daddy corey 188 00:10:16,590 --> 00:10:11,350 what do you mean 189 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:29,030 hope you mean amanda 190 00:10:32,710 --> 00:10:31,430 so there were that's what i think of all 191 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:32,720 this people want to know what i think 192 00:10:37,750 --> 00:10:35,839 that's what i think you gotta there is 193 00:10:39,670 --> 00:10:37,760 there's little there's there's some hope 194 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:39,680 left that this could be salvaged but i 195 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:41,440 don't think so i don't think so i think 196 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:43,920 it's gonna come crumbling down so i'm 197 00:10:48,470 --> 00:10:45,440 trying to check out 198 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:48,480 let it let it crumble let it burn 199 00:10:53,509 --> 00:10:51,360 just garbage let this garbage burn 200 00:10:55,509 --> 00:10:53,519 and let us move on to something more 201 00:10:57,430 --> 00:10:55,519 meaningful with our lives and time i'm 202 00:11:00,069 --> 00:10:57,440 not going to argue with people i'm not 203 00:11:01,910 --> 00:11:00,079 going to try to convince them when we've 204 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:01,920 got facts and evidence to support 205 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:04,240 everything we say and they've got mental 206 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:08,160 gymnastics excuses and garbage sources 207 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:08,880 and 208 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:14,399 excuses for why the pieces don't fit 209 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:16,640 so uh we're checking out 210 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:18,240 and instead tonight we're going to be 211 00:11:21,750 --> 00:11:19,920 covering one of my favorite mysteries 212 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:21,760 this is one i love and i followed this 213 00:11:26,829 --> 00:11:23,920 one since the very beginning when i 214 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:26,839 first heard reports of this in 215 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:29,920 1995. friends this one goes back a ways 216 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:32,480 but it doesn't go back as far as i don't 217 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:34,560 think it goes back as far as some think 218 00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:36,640 because tonight we'll be discussing the 219 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:40,240 legendary chupacabra now for some there 220 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:41,279 are 221 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:43,360 mythological creatures that go back 222 00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:46,399 hundreds or thousands of years in some 223 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:49,360 lure of native peoples and and tribes 224 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:50,560 and other 225 00:11:54,150 --> 00:11:51,760 sources 226 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:54,160 people have found but i'm not sure 227 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:56,160 most of me believes that the story of 228 00:12:01,350 --> 00:12:00,320 chubacabra truly began in 1995 in puerto 229 00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:01,360 rico 230 00:12:08,629 --> 00:12:05,120 but it has become an enduring mystery so 231 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:08,639 get yourself a uh tasty beverage relax 232 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:12,079 we're in for a fun night tonight friends 233 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:13,760 we are going to be exploring the 234 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:16,160 enduring mystery of 235 00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:18,000 chupacabra welcome to truth seekers 236 00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:19,760 friends and welcome to our series 237 00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:22,629 so 238 00:13:32,069 --> 00:13:29,600 um if you go looking into the history of 239 00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:32,079 the legendary chupacabra 240 00:13:38,310 --> 00:13:34,639 the first big reports you may find 241 00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:38,320 and look at is reports from 1995 that 242 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:40,720 surfaced in puerto rico 243 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:42,560 interestingly the description of the 244 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:44,560 creature by eyewitness accounts in 245 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:47,040 puerto rico differs substantially 246 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:49,360 between the later reports of 247 00:13:54,389 --> 00:13:52,160 so-called the same creatures which is 248 00:13:56,389 --> 00:13:54,399 strange in texas 249 00:13:58,710 --> 00:13:56,399 it seems that reports in puerto rico 250 00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:58,720 south america and mexico describe a more 251 00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:01,120 alien or demon-like creature that stands 252 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:03,120 on its own hind legs 253 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:05,760 later reports from texas described it as 254 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:08,000 a four-legged creature 255 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:10,240 and a lot more dog-like 256 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:12,240 the puerto rican south america and 257 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:14,560 mexican reports seem to make it much 258 00:14:21,269 --> 00:14:19,600 more reptilian or some say alien 259 00:14:23,509 --> 00:14:21,279 are these two different 260 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:23,519 species and if so why are both called 261 00:14:28,629 --> 00:14:26,880 chupacabra or is there some connection 262 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:28,639 so the reports begin in puerto rico in 263 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:30,240 1995 264 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:33,120 eventually in puerto rico more and more 265 00:14:36,629 --> 00:14:35,040 reports started streaming into 266 00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:36,639 authorities desks 267 00:14:41,189 --> 00:14:38,959 until eventually strange reports of 268 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:41,199 these elusive creatures were coming in 269 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:43,040 day and night 270 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:45,120 the reports were constant 271 00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:48,240 new sightings were being reported almost 272 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:51,279 daily as residents would wake up to find 273 00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:54,959 carcasses of their animals sucked dry of 274 00:15:00,470 --> 00:14:57,839 blood and dead on their land that's 275 00:15:02,629 --> 00:15:00,480 right all the creatures killed 276 00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:02,639 including chickens goats rabbits and 277 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:03,760 more 278 00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:04,720 were 279 00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:07,519 in each case the carcass the meat was 280 00:15:10,470 --> 00:15:08,800 always left 281 00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:10,480 and in each of these cases in puerto 282 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:11,600 rico 283 00:15:16,150 --> 00:15:13,279 there were and this is an interesting 284 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:16,160 point that always kind of creeped me out 285 00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:18,160 in each of these puerto rican case 286 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:20,639 reports there were distinct puncture 287 00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:22,720 wounds that were clearly visible on the 288 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:25,839 carcasses of the animals that this 289 00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:28,560 so-called chupacabra apparently killed 290 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:30,720 and sucked the blood out of 291 00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:32,959 in most or all the cases every animal 292 00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:34,880 killed was completely and totally 293 00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:36,320 drained of 294 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:38,800 all their blood 295 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:40,800 drained of blood 296 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:42,880 so perhaps its name 297 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:45,680 and the meaning of its name is entirely 298 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:48,639 appropriate after all chubacabra 299 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:51,360 translates literally into 300 00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:54,000 goat sucker 301 00:15:58,389 --> 00:15:56,560 so the legend of chupacabra truly starts 302 00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:58,399 in puerto rico 303 00:16:03,990 --> 00:16:01,680 and after uh this long wave of sightings 304 00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:04,000 it became a huge story not just in 305 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:07,360 puerto rico but internationally 306 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:08,880 because it just so happened that some 307 00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:10,880 documentary filmmakers happen to be 308 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:12,480 there in puerto rico working on a 309 00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:14,800 different project but 310 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:17,040 they took the time to go and investigate 311 00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:19,040 some of these reports and covered much 312 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:21,680 of the puerto rican 313 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:22,800 uh 314 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:26,000 information and to this day it remains 315 00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,360 the best 316 00:16:30,629 --> 00:16:29,279 early evidence of the history of 317 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:30,639 chubacabra 318 00:16:33,829 --> 00:16:32,160 and much of this was detailed on the 319 00:16:35,749 --> 00:16:33,839 history channel 320 00:16:38,389 --> 00:16:35,759 on a show called monster quest an 321 00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:38,399 episode on the chubacabra 322 00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:40,079 it would appear 323 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:42,079 that the reports began in puerto rico in 324 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:44,000 1995 325 00:16:50,629 --> 00:16:46,160 started to get some attention but then 326 00:16:51,509 --> 00:16:50,639 by 1996 they really started ramping up 327 00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:51,519 uh 328 00:16:56,389 --> 00:16:53,839 in 1996 in 329 00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:56,399 canovas puerto rico 330 00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:59,600 that town became an incredible hotbed of 331 00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:02,240 sightings of chupacabras almost every 332 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:04,319 night for four months there was a 333 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,400 sighting of this 334 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:08,400 elusive creature 335 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:10,000 so the filmmakers that were there 336 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:12,160 american filmmakers began investigating 337 00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:13,600 the sightings 338 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:15,600 in kenovanus 339 00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:18,400 and they thought they found a chupacabra 340 00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:20,799 nest of all things near one of the kill 341 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:22,319 sites 342 00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:25,120 and at that time back in 1996 they got 343 00:17:31,669 --> 00:17:27,439 hair samples they would not be analyzed 344 00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:31,679 at that time but later would be 345 00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:32,960 they got the hair 346 00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:35,039 samples from a kill site where rabbits 347 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,799 were killed and drained of all their 348 00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:38,160 blood 349 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:40,000 more than a decade later the history 350 00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:43,360 channel would analyze these hair samples 351 00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:45,600 for species identification through 352 00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:48,799 animal hair matching databases and also 353 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:50,960 through dna extraction 354 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:53,679 what were the results well more on that 355 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:56,000 later 356 00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:01,280 chubacabra began pouring in 357 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:04,240 from all over south america and then all 358 00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:06,720 over mexico and then 359 00:18:10,789 --> 00:18:09,039 all over texas 360 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:10,799 there were waves of sightings and 361 00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:13,840 reports in both south america and later 362 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:16,400 mexico many of the reports 363 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,160 from south america and mexico bore 364 00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:20,880 striking simula similarities 365 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:23,440 to the original reports from puerto rico 366 00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:25,200 animals were killed 367 00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:27,520 but the meat the carcass the body of the 368 00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:29,440 animal was left behind 369 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:30,559 and again 370 00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:32,799 many reports included these distinction 371 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:35,039 distinctive puncture wounds 372 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:38,320 and the animals drained of blood 373 00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:40,960 it's interesting to note that in south 374 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:43,039 america and in puerto rico 375 00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:44,320 much of the reports of what the 376 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,320 creatures look like match the early 377 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:48,400 puerto rican reports but as we get to 378 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:50,640 mexico and later 379 00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:53,679 texas the description of the animal in 380 00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:55,280 question begins to change where the 381 00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:57,200 creature in question begins to change 382 00:19:02,950 --> 00:18:59,919 and becomes much less reptilian and 383 00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:02,960 alien-like and it no longer is standing 384 00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:05,440 on two hind legs but now it is a 385 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:08,080 four-legged creature that resembles some 386 00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:11,520 type of demon dog and interestingly 387 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,320 both of these descriptions 388 00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:16,559 are used universally 389 00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:19,679 for the same creature the chupacabra i 390 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,120 find that interesting how did the 391 00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:25,360 is this two separate creatures now there 392 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:26,720 are and 393 00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:28,720 a bunch of different theories as to what 394 00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:29,919 this is 395 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:31,280 some people 396 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,400 have theorized that this is some sort of 397 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:36,480 lab experiment that escaped in puerto 398 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:38,240 rico 399 00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,039 there are some strange and mysterious 400 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:43,120 united states bases 401 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:45,200 in and around puerto rico 402 00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:47,600 so some people have theorized that this 403 00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:50,799 was some sort of incredible crazy 404 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:53,360 laboratory experiment a chimera if you 405 00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:56,240 will mixing the dna of different animal 406 00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:59,039 species to come up with some sort of bio 407 00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:03,590 i've not been able to find any evidence 408 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:04,640 of that 409 00:20:07,630 --> 00:20:06,960 others have claimed that shortly before 410 00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:07,640 the 411 00:20:14,149 --> 00:20:10,799 1995 sightings began in puerto rico 412 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:14,159 there were a wave of ufo reports and 413 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:16,480 even ufo landings 414 00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:18,720 in and around puerto rico 415 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:20,320 so 416 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:23,760 believed or theorized that these 417 00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:27,600 creatures must be some kind of aliens 418 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:29,679 after all 419 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:32,320 they walked around on two legs like a 420 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:37,590 later 421 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:40,000 people would theorize that these were 422 00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:41,679 some sort of 423 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:43,440 government weapon 424 00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:46,080 mixed with alien dna and the stories get 425 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:49,280 crazier and crazier in the explanations 426 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:51,440 for what it may be 427 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:54,480 still others like cryptid creature 428 00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:57,600 researchers swear that this is simply an 429 00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:00,840 unknown species of strange 430 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:04,720 animal that has yet to be discovered but 431 00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:06,400 will be 432 00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,200 no matter what explanation you follow 433 00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,200 this has been and 434 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:13,679 or believe this has been an enduring 435 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:17,360 mystery that has persisted at least 436 00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:21,360 since 1995 and it's interesting to note 437 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:22,720 that even though i believe that 438 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:25,360 definitive proof of what a lot of this 439 00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:27,600 these creatures were has been determined 440 00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:29,200 scientifically 441 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:31,520 reports of these creatures are still 442 00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:34,480 pouring in today but not just from texas 443 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:36,640 from many different states in the united 444 00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:40,710 next 445 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:42,720 after the puerto rican 446 00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:45,280 south american and mexican 447 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:48,000 waves of spottings and sightings of this 448 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,080 legendary creature 449 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,400 um and by the way the the it's important 450 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,000 to note that 451 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,000 through my research i've determined that 452 00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:58,320 most much or most of the sightings in 453 00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:01,360 puerto rico south america and 454 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,440 mexico yielded very little physical 455 00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:05,520 evidence we don't get pictures we don't 456 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:08,000 get films or videos we certainly don't 457 00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:10,960 get a living creature or a body of one 458 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:13,840 or any substantial evidence there have 459 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,960 been a few where there was hair samples 460 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:18,240 nothing more 461 00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:20,240 and most of those hand hair samples 462 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:22,720 found in puerto rico 463 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,960 mexico and south america were never 464 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:27,360 scientifically tested though one sample 465 00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,720 was and we'll hear more on that later 466 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:33,039 so after the the sightings in puerto 467 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,080 rico 468 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:36,960 south america and mexico texas next 469 00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:40,000 became the hot spot of reports 470 00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,240 but texas was different and i was glad 471 00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:43,919 for this because 472 00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:46,320 in texas people were finding 473 00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:48,799 not just reports of these animals people 474 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,320 were apparently finding dead so-called 475 00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:55,200 chupacabras near animal attack sites on 476 00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:56,720 their land 477 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,320 and someone also even shot a living 478 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,240 specimen of what they call the 479 00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:05,360 chupacabra and then took samples from 480 00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:08,159 its carcass 481 00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:10,559 so throughout puerto rico south america 482 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:12,559 and mexico we get many many sightings 483 00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:15,200 and reports but not very much evidence 484 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:18,159 we get very few pieces of actual 485 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,240 evidence a few hair samples again most 486 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,640 of which wasn't analyzed at the time 487 00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:24,480 but once reports started coming in from 488 00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:25,520 texas 489 00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:27,679 we started getting some really good 490 00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,799 solid 491 00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:31,039 physical evidence and i myself was 492 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:32,520 following this in 493 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:35,200 1996 i believe there was newspaper 494 00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:36,880 reports this made 495 00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:38,720 headlines that people were finding 496 00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,799 bodies of this creature what is it 497 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:45,120 i was amazed and fascinated that maybe 498 00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,400 the mystery 499 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:48,960 uh would be solved in 1996 when people 500 00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:51,360 start finding these bodies 501 00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:53,440 uh excuse me later 502 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:55,919 past 1996 when we get to the texas 503 00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,039 timeline 504 00:24:02,630 --> 00:23:59,840 uh which was more than 10 years later 505 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,640 that the texas wave began i was i was 506 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:04,320 like we're gonna get to the mystery of 507 00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,640 this we got bodies of these things let's 508 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:08,799 see what it is let's get it analyzed 509 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:11,919 let's get some dna experts in here let's 510 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,960 get some 511 00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:14,880 people that could help us identify 512 00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:17,039 species of animals let's find out what 513 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:19,039 this thing is 514 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,840 um 515 00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:21,760 so there were bodies 516 00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:24,320 of these creatures in texas that were 517 00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,960 recovered in cuervo texas 518 00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:28,400 um 519 00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:30,799 el mendor of texas and a few other 520 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:33,679 locations throughout the state of texas 521 00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:34,640 folks 522 00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:37,600 either alive or dead there was more than 523 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:39,840 eight specimens i've been able to find 524 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:43,440 most dead but a few were captured alive 525 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:44,320 in 526 00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:46,880 traps 527 00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,679 interestingly history channels monster 528 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:50,960 quest show you know back when they 529 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:53,039 actually did some science and decent 530 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:53,840 work 531 00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,360 i've been very hard on the history 532 00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:57,120 channel uh about some of their 533 00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,200 programming but 534 00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:01,919 this uh specific episode of monster 535 00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:04,000 quest was great because they told you 536 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,320 the story they collected the evidence 537 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,559 and then on their own dime they paid to 538 00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,720 have the world's best experts they could 539 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:12,799 find analyze 540 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:14,720 the evidence that people were finding 541 00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,720 after all if we've got bodies that means 542 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:18,480 we may have blood samples we may have 543 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:21,760 skin samples we may have dna evidence 544 00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:24,799 uh and all hair samples all of this 545 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:26,400 shouldn't be able to be analyzed by 546 00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,760 experts 547 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:30,159 i was i was i couldn't wait we're 548 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,000 finally going to get to see 549 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,080 if we can solve this mystery this 550 00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:36,720 enduring mystery 551 00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:39,200 so first skin samples from these texas 552 00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:40,960 discoveries were sent to experts 553 00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,080 including a woman named joan mancell 554 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:46,720 she was a veterinary pathologist at 555 00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:49,360 texas a m which is a college of 556 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,120 veterinary medicine 557 00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:53,039 and i remember thinking if anybody could 558 00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:54,840 tell us what this is 559 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,760 um a veterinary pathologist should be 560 00:26:02,390 --> 00:25:59,760 able to look at this skin under a 561 00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,400 microscope or whatever and then the hair 562 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,400 samples and tell us what kind of animal 563 00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:07,200 it is if it is a known 564 00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:08,400 animal 565 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:09,600 so 566 00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,320 we get to her analysis and 567 00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,880 her analysis could not determine 568 00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:17,039 one second too it's important that i uh 569 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,710 while people were finding these strange 570 00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:27,039 animals dead or capturing them or 571 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:28,799 shooting them and killing them that were 572 00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:30,720 killing their animals 573 00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:34,320 all over texas apparently 574 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,080 some people were 575 00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,120 weighing in and saying that these 576 00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:41,600 were not 577 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,000 anything extraordinary 578 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:45,600 some people were weighing in and saying 579 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,320 that these were animals with here we see 580 00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:50,720 some of the analysts that did this work 581 00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,120 so here we see one of the creatures 582 00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,310 that had samples taken and and were 583 00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,320 analyzed 584 00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,080 so some people wildlife experts were 585 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:03,760 chiming in and saying this this is not 586 00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,400 anything extraordinary this is a an 587 00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,240 animal with mange 588 00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:10,559 and many said most likely a coyote with 589 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,400 mange 590 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,240 i was unconvinced because i've seen 591 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,320 coyotes and these things didn't look 592 00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:18,640 like a coyote to me that strange 593 00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:21,200 markings in some cases leathery almost 594 00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:24,159 reptilian skin and oh here we see a view 595 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,960 of the difference we have the 596 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:29,039 what a difference right is this creature 597 00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:30,720 evolving as it 598 00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,880 finds new territory is it a shape 599 00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:34,799 shifter i never understood this it 600 00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,760 seemed weird to me that all over mexico 601 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,559 argentina and uh puerto rico they're 602 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:42,880 seeing this creature which is on the 603 00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:45,520 left that looks much more demonic or 604 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,880 alien or 605 00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:49,760 reptilian with spikes all over it and 606 00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,399 also much more humanoid 607 00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,159 but on the right we see the creatures 608 00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,200 found in texas and also to be fair some 609 00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,640 parts of mexico 610 00:28:01,909 --> 00:28:00,399 these type of creatures on the right 611 00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,919 were found and claimed to be the 612 00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,399 legendary chupacabra i remain 613 00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:07,120 unconvinced one lady was so sure she had 614 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:09,679 something special that after she found 615 00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:11,600 what she thought was a dead chupacabra 616 00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:14,960 on her land she froze its head 617 00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:16,480 and 618 00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,320 later the history channel was able to 619 00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:21,279 take samples and analyze it 620 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:22,640 so 621 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:25,840 what the hell is going on here 622 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:29,600 what the hell is is this stuff and what 623 00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,080 would the scientists say 624 00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:34,399 it's important to note that i have seen 625 00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:37,679 uh coyotes at the cabin and i believe i 626 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,399 once saw a coyote with mange 627 00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:42,399 but i remained unconvinced that these 628 00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,080 were coyotes with mange because i've 629 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,559 seen a coyote with mange and it 630 00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:48,880 this looked like something else 631 00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:49,840 or 632 00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,320 had to go on here 633 00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:58,320 these look like something much more to 634 00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,669 but 635 00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:03,600 i i 636 00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:04,880 stand by 637 00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:07,200 scientists and experts especially if we 638 00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,480 can verify their background in 639 00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,000 employment yeah 640 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,559 these are good experts that are 641 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,200 qualified to judge these materials taken 642 00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:17,760 from these carcasses 643 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:19,520 um 644 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,360 so back to the results uh 645 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:26,240 the first analyst joan mancell again 646 00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,240 she's a veterinary pathologist at texas 647 00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,720 a m college of veterinary medicine she 648 00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:33,360 wanted to determine two things first did 649 00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:36,000 these creatures have mage from the 650 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:37,279 sample she was getting could she 651 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,720 determine that 652 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:40,559 unfortunately she was unable to 653 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,039 determine if these animals had mange 654 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,880 because the cells were dead and she 655 00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,880 could not detect the mites or signs of 656 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:48,000 the mites 657 00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,520 that caused this mange in common animals 658 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:53,360 like dogs wolves 659 00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:56,799 bears uh coyotes etc 660 00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:58,960 but joan mansell was able to determine 661 00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:00,960 that these creatures 662 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:03,039 from the samples that she got from two 663 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,320 of them 664 00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:06,720 were not a hairless dog that was another 665 00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,000 theory that this was some kind of 666 00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,320 mexican hairless dog 667 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:12,880 that somehow went feral 668 00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:15,200 uh and was killing animals 669 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:17,679 uh that of course a mexican hairless dog 670 00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:18,960 seemed ridiculous to me because it 671 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:20,880 wouldn't explain the blood sucking but 672 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:25,440 okay so not a hairless dog she said 673 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:27,760 she said it was definitely 674 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:29,200 um 675 00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,720 a dog 676 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,360 from the samples that she analyzed and 677 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:36,480 not a canine of the hairless variety 678 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:37,600 these 679 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,720 animals 680 00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,640 from the samples that she was given she 681 00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,480 determined that these animals definitely 682 00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:45,120 had hair at some earlier point and she 683 00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,279 could tell this from the follicle 684 00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:49,279 patterns on the skin samples she 685 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:51,279 analyzed 686 00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:52,960 hairless dogs wouldn't would have 687 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,200 different and distinct 688 00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,039 follicle patterns or no follicle 689 00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,269 next we get to the ellendorf texas tooth 690 00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,679 sample people took samples of the teeth 691 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:08,080 out of these carcasses 692 00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:08,960 and 693 00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,559 tooth 694 00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:19,269 so we've got two samples and they both 695 00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:21,679 come back from analysis by this expert 696 00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:24,399 in veterinary veterinary pathology as 697 00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:28,880 belonging to an ordinary domestic dog 698 00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,039 quite a letdown this is just a mangy dog 699 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,440 if that's just a mangy dog that that's 700 00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:38,080 still a crazy story like 701 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,679 i uh 702 00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:41,600 you could see in some of these pictures 703 00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:44,320 that these things look 704 00:31:48,750 --> 00:31:47,200 almost uh you know certainly creepy and 705 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,760 some would say 706 00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:50,320 otherworldly 707 00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:53,120 but from the experts what we have is 708 00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,240 that they are a domestic dog 709 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,640 so where 710 00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:01,440 so my question and a question you may be 711 00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:02,799 asking yourself 712 00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:05,200 is were all these recovered bodies 713 00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,080 thought to be the legendary chubacabra 714 00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:10,080 just mangy dogs 715 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,640 well not so fast because a few more 716 00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:14,640 experts scientific experts would weigh 717 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:17,039 in and give their scientific analysis 718 00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:19,679 and expert opinions on some of the other 719 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,559 samples of these carcasses of animals or 720 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:24,240 bodies of 721 00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:25,120 the 722 00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:27,679 perhaps chupacabra found 723 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,320 more samples were sent to irving 724 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,120 cornfield who is a forensic hair 725 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,559 specialist 726 00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:36,399 he got two samples of hair from the 727 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,880 creatures from texas and he analyzed 728 00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:44,630 mr cornfield was able to say definitely 729 00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,679 that those two samples also matched a 730 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:49,919 domestic dog 731 00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:52,880 he used scalation patterns on the hairs 732 00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:55,279 viewed under an electron microscope to 733 00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:57,919 make the comparison to known animals and 734 00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,000 match those hair samples 735 00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,320 to what he believed them to be 736 00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:04,880 and at the end of it in his analysis 737 00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:07,600 he believes very strongly that these 738 00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:19,909 but wait there's more 739 00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:21,430 i think that 740 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,600 you know i can dog some 741 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,120 some channels 742 00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:27,360 uh for the current work they're doing 743 00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:29,919 being shoddy but 744 00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,559 uh they did good work at times it's i 745 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,480 think that this was good work they 746 00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:37,039 took the samples they got world-renowned 747 00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:39,519 experts to weigh in on what they believe 748 00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:42,000 it was they tried to get to the truth of 749 00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:43,360 this mystery 750 00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:45,279 so 751 00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:47,360 dna samples from several of these 752 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:49,760 creatures found in texas 753 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:52,960 uh were also sent to todd 754 00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:55,760 disotel who was a dna expert 755 00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,039 they also 756 00:34:04,149 --> 00:33:59,440 sent him that hair sample from all the 757 00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:04,159 way back in puerto rico found in 1996 758 00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:04,960 and 759 00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:06,799 so he got a hair sample 760 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:09,919 found in puerto rico in 1996 and then a 761 00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:13,520 tooth and a sample from a texas party 762 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:15,919 found in texas of the so-called 763 00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:18,720 chubacabra he analyzed both extracting 764 00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:22,079 dna from them and the dna test results 765 00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:23,679 came back as 766 00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:29,589 next dna expert 767 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:31,839 todd desotel 768 00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:35,440 tested a specimen from cuervo texas 769 00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:38,800 where another one of these strange 770 00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:42,399 perhaps chupacabra bodies had been found 771 00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:44,800 and preserved samples were taken from 772 00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:46,560 that body found 773 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,679 in cuervo texas and sent to dna expert 774 00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,520 todd this hotel 775 00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:53,679 now that one was much more interesting 776 00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:54,720 results 777 00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:57,200 because in that case it turned out that 778 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,800 the mitochondrial dna or the female side 779 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,800 of the dna tested 780 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:04,320 meaning the mother 781 00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:07,680 of that creature was a coyote 782 00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:11,760 but the y chromosome or father's side of 783 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:14,800 that dna determined that the father of 784 00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:18,560 that creature found was actually a wolf 785 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,280 native to mexico 786 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:23,920 and south america 787 00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:26,240 so what we have here in at least one of 788 00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,320 these cases is a 789 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,200 coyote wolf hybrid 790 00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,160 that most probably had mange 791 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,720 and this was the cause of its strange 792 00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:39,359 appearance in fact many experts have 793 00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,480 weighed in 794 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,720 with their belief that all of these 795 00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,640 creatures we showed you 796 00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,800 uh regardless of whether all these 797 00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:49,040 creatures that we showed you were both 798 00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:51,680 from the canine family and 799 00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,480 had 800 00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:54,720 various degrees of 801 00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:56,560 suffering from mange 802 00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,280 which is a terrible affliction they 803 00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:01,359 when somebody has mange an animal has 804 00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:02,960 means they have mites all over their 805 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,320 skin which are eating at their skin they 806 00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:08,480 begin to scratch and 807 00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,359 poke and peck at their skin they can't 808 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:13,599 stop themselves their skin 809 00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:15,760 all their hair begins to fall off and 810 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,880 their skin becomes filled with scars 811 00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,119 legions scratch marks 812 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,079 and this my friends may explain the 813 00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:26,640 strange almost reptilian scaly 814 00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:29,839 appearance that the skin of these found 815 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:31,920 creatures 816 00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:37,750 in fact i believe it is highly likely 817 00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:40,000 that these recovering animals regardless 818 00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,920 of whether they were domestic dogs 819 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,720 coyotes or some hybrid of a dog in 820 00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,880 coyote i have noted that there were 821 00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:48,640 several examples of 822 00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:51,359 dog coyote hybrids found that people 823 00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:54,560 believe were chubacabras again any of 824 00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:57,760 them that were tested came back as 825 00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:01,760 a dog a dog coyote hybrid or a coyote 826 00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:03,680 wolf hybrid 827 00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:06,800 not one came back from a dna test as 828 00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:08,560 unknown dna 829 00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:12,800 or unknown species or alien or 830 00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:16,720 reptile or any of the other theories 831 00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,359 during my research i did find a really 832 00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:21,839 good example of a live creature that 833 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,720 some 834 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:24,720 could easily mistake 835 00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,200 as the legendary chubakabra when the 836 00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:29,359 truth is it is something much more 837 00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:32,160 ordinary the video i'm about to share is 838 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:33,359 sad 839 00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,320 um 840 00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,960 but it is an ordinary animal 841 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,359 which happens to be suffering from this 842 00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:41,760 condition of mange 843 00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:44,160 so i am going to put up my fair use 844 00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:49,109 this is fair use this is a 845 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:50,960 transformative work we're educating the 846 00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:52,960 public about the legendary enduring 847 00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:55,280 mystery of the chubacabra we'll be 848 00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,520 discussing the video that we are sharing 849 00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,599 we'll be commenting on it and discussing 850 00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:01,280 it with our live chat 851 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:14,150 one second friends 852 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:16,150 just bear with me for one moment while i 853 00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:17,920 check in with something i've always got 854 00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,000 somebody pinging me and sometimes that's 855 00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:23,119 important so please bear with me friends 856 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:24,720 i want to welcome 857 00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:31,030 our enduring mysteries 858 00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:37,910 and yes carrie i was supposed to be 859 00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:39,200 sharing that 860 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:40,560 so 861 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:43,200 i found this example of a captured 862 00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:44,160 animal 863 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,599 which uh 864 00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:47,520 well we're just gonna play it 865 00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:57,990 you can see 866 00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,990 what's up y'all we're checking our trap 867 00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:01,680 and these kids have seen what's in it i 868 00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,150 it's a wolf and it's very thick it's 869 00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:12,880 actually a coyote with bad names they 870 00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:15,359 told me it was a chupacabra so it looks 871 00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:16,800 like a cupid 872 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:20,960 all right let's see yeah and and see 873 00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,599 many people believe that 874 00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:26,000 animals with mange 875 00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:26,800 are 876 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:29,920 for 877 00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:32,560 some of these reports in other words 878 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,599 misidentified ordinary animal 879 00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:37,680 these creatures with these 880 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,640 creatures these uh known animals 881 00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,400 suffering from mange 882 00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:45,280 are known to look extremely strange 883 00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:48,400 and not like their usual cells 884 00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,800 i mean if you take the animal off of a 885 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:52,320 furry animal it's going to look 886 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:53,680 different 887 00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:56,560 and also like i said the condition of 888 00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,359 mange it also they scratch themselves 889 00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,520 they bite at their skin 890 00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,359 to try to get these mites off it's an 891 00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:05,200 impossible they're never going to get 892 00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,800 mites off they're too small but they 893 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,040 will scratch and scratch and scratch and 894 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:10,480 bite at their skin 895 00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:11,760 which causes 896 00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:14,160 cuts in their skin abrasions lesions 897 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:15,680 scabs 898 00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:18,240 it's it's really a sad thing and i once 899 00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:21,200 saw a coyote with mange it was very sad 900 00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:22,960 i wish that i could do something to help 901 00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:23,680 it 902 00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:28,560 if 903 00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,160 you call 904 00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,319 the people who handle wildlife for your 905 00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:34,960 state in some states they will come out 906 00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:37,040 dark the animal treat it for the mange 907 00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,920 and then release it but most states 908 00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:42,000 uh don't do that and that's a sad thing 909 00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,839 because it's you know i have a soft 910 00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:45,920 heart for animals so i hate to see 911 00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:47,119 things like this 912 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,390 dad 913 00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:00,720 i'm not going to get close to it you are 914 00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:01,760 close 915 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:03,760 now in this example it appears that you 916 00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:06,960 know 50 or 60 maybe even 70 percent 917 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:09,280 of the creature of the animal 918 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:12,640 still has hair uh but as the mange 919 00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,400 condition progresses 920 00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:16,880 more and more hair will come off 921 00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,800 um as the skin begins to deteriorate the 922 00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:23,280 hair follicles fall out along with the 923 00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,440 hair 924 00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,359 if that ain't a chupacabra i don't know 925 00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:29,520 what is it's actually a coyote with 926 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,560 mange 927 00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:32,400 when they said it was a chupacabra i 928 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:47,510 we got to stay back he will bite 929 00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,109 that's what he is he's a coyote with 930 00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:51,040 mange that's the last thing i would want 931 00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,030 looks like it has skin damage on the 932 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,599 forehead right 933 00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:03,440 he there look at those eyes we should 934 00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,319 let it there's some pretty green eyes 935 00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,640 yeah he's got mange so 936 00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,720 he's a coyote we've got to decide if 937 00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,400 we're going to let him go if we're going 938 00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:14,160 to what we're going to do with him but 939 00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:21,990 yeah and i would hope that they did 940 00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,880 and uh my prayers for this poor creature 941 00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,880 suffering from uh 942 00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,880 this thing called mange it's it's 943 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:31,520 terrible to see but this my friends may 944 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:32,560 just be 945 00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:33,680 the 946 00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,200 creatures in various stages of this 947 00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:42,079 condition mange whether they be coyotes 948 00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,119 i saw an example of a bear with mange 949 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:47,440 a black bear with mange that appeared to 950 00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:49,440 be only a few years old 951 00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:52,319 that people mistook for a chupacabra and 952 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:55,040 captured you can find that on youtube 953 00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:55,920 um 954 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:57,680 but again that's another sad case so i 955 00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:58,880 don't want to share 956 00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:02,560 all right so 957 00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:06,000 where are we at then with the mystery of 958 00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:08,560 the legendary chubacabra it would appear 959 00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:10,160 that 960 00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,040 reports of people claiming to see the 961 00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:15,359 chupacabra persist 962 00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:17,119 in puerto rico 963 00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,280 in south america in mexico in texas now 964 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:23,599 in other states in the united states and 965 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,400 even in whole other countries 966 00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:28,480 and i believe that the media may have 967 00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:31,119 played a part in spreading the legend of 968 00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,079 the chupacabra because as more and more 969 00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,000 national and international news 970 00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:38,319 organizations began running stories 971 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:42,160 about the so-called chupacabra creature 972 00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:45,280 more and more reports of them from more 973 00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:48,720 and more places started coming in 974 00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,200 i tried to track down 975 00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,280 some of the most modern cases but i was 976 00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:55,520 left very unimpressed with some of the 977 00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:56,720 reports 978 00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:57,760 again 979 00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:00,000 i believe that many of the reports are 980 00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,040 misidentified animals ordinary animals 981 00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:05,680 with mange 982 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,640 in all the reports in any more modern 983 00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:10,480 cases where samples were taken and 984 00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:13,839 analyzed again they come back as dog or 985 00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:17,520 coyote or some hybrid of dog coyote or 986 00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:21,430 interesting 987 00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:22,400 thing 988 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,599 but uh 989 00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:26,400 yes wolves sometimes mate with coyotes 990 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,359 and 991 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,160 wolves or excuse me coyotes sometimes 992 00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,640 mate with wolves at my cabin which is in 993 00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:34,800 pennsylvania 994 00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,880 i dispute this they 995 00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:38,160 my cabin is in the mountains of 996 00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:39,599 pennsylvania 997 00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,400 i dispute or believe that it may be an 998 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,480 error to say that there are no wolves in 999 00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:46,480 the pennsylvania mountains because i 1000 00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,440 believe that i have seen one 1001 00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:51,599 however 1002 00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,200 locals at my cabin try to explain to me 1003 00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:57,680 that what i'm seeing is again a 1004 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:00,560 misidentified animal i believe that the 1005 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:03,040 animal that i saw was way too big to be 1006 00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,680 a coyote so i believed it had to be a 1007 00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:07,359 wolf 1008 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:09,359 and that maybe some wolves are coming 1009 00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:12,720 down from more northern areas and the 1010 00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:15,040 wildlife services or authorities still 1011 00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:16,480 haven't caught up with the fact that 1012 00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:19,680 there may be a few wolves roaming around 1013 00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:23,040 my cabin in the in rural 1014 00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:25,280 pennsylvania mountains 1015 00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:28,000 however in talking to friends and 1016 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,240 neighbors most of the locals believe 1017 00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:32,720 that those are coyotes that i've been 1018 00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:35,920 seeing and i have seen some 1019 00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:39,119 with a neighbor that 1020 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,040 he said that's a coyote but they are 1021 00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:43,760 very big coyotes so the locals to my 1022 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:47,359 cabin believe that there are coyote wolf 1023 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,880 hybrids running around in the mountains 1024 00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:52,960 and from what i've seen these coyotes 1025 00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,839 are so big that would appear to me there 1026 00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:57,680 it's got to be that some of them are 1027 00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,839 wolves and some of them are coyotes a 1028 00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,920 lot of them have similar markings 1029 00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,680 sometimes i see really small ones and i 1030 00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:05,839 go well for sure that's just a coyote 1031 00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:08,560 but then i say a really big one and and 1032 00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:10,640 and the fur color and all that stuff 1033 00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:14,880 seems very similar but but they're huge 1034 00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,480 for a coyote so 1035 00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,319 again i guess i have my own mystery to 1036 00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:20,880 solve at the cabin are these wolves i'm 1037 00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:24,319 seeing or misidentified coyote wolf 1038 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:25,520 hybrids 1039 00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:28,960 and i just think it's interesting that 1040 00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,680 two species cross mating like that 1041 00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:33,839 you know we can find examples in history 1042 00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:36,160 where two species cross mating 1043 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,280 start some sort of myth or legend of a 1044 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,240 legendary creature when it's really not 1045 00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:44,319 that extraordinary that 1046 00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,160 species so similar in dna type would 1047 00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,359 choose to uh procreate together 1048 00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:53,359 you know i don't know what causes that 1049 00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,920 maybe a male wolf is running around not 1050 00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:57,760 being able to find a female to copulate 1051 00:47:01,270 --> 00:47:00,079 with but he finds a bunch of female 1052 00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,280 uh 1053 00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:03,280 coyotes and all the parts work and the 1054 00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:05,119 dna matches up 1055 00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:07,359 so they you know 1056 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:08,960 have children 1057 00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:09,760 um 1058 00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,160 interesting though that cross breeding 1059 00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,640 of of ordinary animals can sometimes 1060 00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:16,319 create legends of 1061 00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:19,920 whole mythological creatures 1062 00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:22,160 so there we have it friends reports are 1063 00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:24,240 still made from time to time but they 1064 00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:26,640 have slowed down a good deal as media 1065 00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,000 interest in the legend of the chupacabra 1066 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,800 seems to have subsided in recent more 1067 00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,400 recent years 1068 00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:35,839 what do you think let me know in the 1069 00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:38,000 comments is there something more to this 1070 00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:41,119 story or are these just ordinary animals 1071 00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:43,359 suffering from mange or other skin 1072 00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,280 conditions which causes them to become 1073 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,680 hairless and look strange let us know in 1074 00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:49,440 the comments 1075 00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:50,960 what theory 1076 00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:53,280 do you believe now again we've got these 1077 00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:55,119 are aliens 1078 00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,119 now we've got these are some sort of 1079 00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:59,440 genetic experiment that the united 1080 00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,880 states government was trying to develop 1081 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:02,800 a weapon i haven't heard a theory that 1082 00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,200 these are i heard a theory earlier on 1083 00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:07,280 twitter after i posted this that these 1084 00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:10,319 creatures are the real ones not you know 1085 00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:11,920 the ones we figured out were dogs but 1086 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,200 the other ones that were some sort of 1087 00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,400 genetic experiment from aliens mixing 1088 00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,720 reptilian and gray dna and all this 1089 00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:22,400 other stuff to create a weapon to fight 1090 00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,280 all of them and save earth i mean 1091 00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:27,359 it's a big rabbit hole here this chuba 1092 00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:28,640 copper thing 1093 00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,960 but i enjoy doing my research and 1094 00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:32,720 finding examples 1095 00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,920 uh and trying to bring you this story 1096 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,440 so the next 1097 00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,520 uh theory that we have again is some 1098 00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:41,680 kind of genetic experiment escaped from 1099 00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,240 a secret lab 1100 00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:46,160 and then we have the theory that these 1101 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,440 are ordinary misidentified animals or 1102 00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:51,599 ordinary animals that are cross-breeding 1103 00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,280 may have mange look strange 1104 00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:57,839 i guess that's the boring theory right 1105 00:49:01,589 --> 00:49:00,480 this there's this is just misidentified 1106 00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:01,599 animals 1107 00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:03,760 some people choose to believe that these 1108 00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:05,599 are aliens some people choose to believe 1109 00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:08,400 that these are a cryptid creature as yet 1110 00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:11,520 undiscovered by science but will someday 1111 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,559 be just like the legendary bigfoot 1112 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:16,400 i remain unconvinced 1113 00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:18,160 that these are 1114 00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:21,280 that this is more than misidentified 1115 00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,240 animals but i gotta tell you 1116 00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,480 i think that i would still be willing to 1117 00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,040 look at additional evidence if more 1118 00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:31,040 evidence becomes available especially 1119 00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,000 good evidence like bodies or 1120 00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:36,880 carcasses or especially living specimens 1121 00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:38,480 it's worth investigating it's worth 1122 00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,680 getting to the bottom of the mystery 1123 00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:43,760 and that's where we're at friends 1124 00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:46,000 this has been an enduring mystery for 1125 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,960 many many years and tonight 1126 00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:50,160 i 1127 00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,160 about the story 1128 00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:02,720 now with this entry of our enduring 1129 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,359 mystery series i have become part of the 1130 00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,200 story too 1131 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,599 and i can't tell you how happy it makes 1132 00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:11,680 me to know that maybe years from now 1133 00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:13,760 somebody will find this video 1134 00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:16,480 and uh i'll be there 1135 00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,280 part of the legend 1136 00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:21,040 and this is what this has become this 1137 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:23,599 has become an urban legend 1138 00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,400 it's become a worldwide legend and i'm 1139 00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,559 happy to be a part of it 1140 00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:30,640 so that's what i got for you folks for 1141 00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,800 once i came in under time i thought this 1142 00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:34,160 was going to take 1143 00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:37,119 an hour we're at 50 minutes so what 1144 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:38,960 we're gonna do and i apologize if i 1145 00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:41,200 missed any super chats we read each and 1146 00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:42,480 every single chat 1147 00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:44,800 single 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1192 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:36,790 yes 1193 00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:39,349 we still don't try to reach you through 1194 00:53:47,839 --> 00:54:10,630 i think it's time because it's cold 1195 00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:25,990 is 1196 00:54:43,040 --> 00:55:05,349 i think it's time we let the story here 1197 00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:06,309 you 1198 00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:28,549 and we are back friends so i'm here to 1199 00:55:33,829 --> 00:55:31,359 answer comments questions suggestions 1200 00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:33,839 read any super chats that come in and 1201 00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,280 also uh thank the patreon supporters 1202 00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,359 looks like we um 1203 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:41,760 i'm gonna check in with the paypal first 1204 00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:54,150 please if you do send a paypal donation 1205 00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,119 add a note please be sure to add a note 1206 00:56:02,870 --> 00:55:59,119 okay so we've kind and generous ten 1207 00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:02,880 dollar uh paypal donation uh 1208 00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:06,000 from jenny in british columbia who says 1209 00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:07,599 keep up the good work with the great 1210 00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:10,079 shows great research love tuning in 1211 00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,599 every night to see what you're going to 1212 00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,119 cover next 1213 00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:15,440 well thank you uh for your kindness your 1214 00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:18,079 generosity and your support of the show 1215 00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:20,799 uh this is a viewer supported show and 1216 00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:23,920 you help everybody it helps keep the 1217 00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,720 show 1218 00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:26,400 trucking along 1219 00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:27,760 my thanks for your kindness your 1220 00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,950 b baker doesn't uh appear to enjoy our 1221 00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:41,040 music choices saying good stuff gotta 1222 00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,040 play some 90s band 1223 00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:46,240 garbage uh oh oh no no you do you you're 1224 00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,839 saying we should play the band garbage 1225 00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:49,920 well i don't have any arrangement with 1226 00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,440 them so that's 1227 00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:53,680 not likely uh it's more likely that we 1228 00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,720 would get 1229 00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,240 um 1230 00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:58,400 a copyright strike or claim and we're 1231 00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,400 trying to avoid those uh i understand 1232 00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:02,000 people ask me to play copyrighted music 1233 00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,119 all the time 1234 00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:05,040 um but we got to stick with things that 1235 00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:06,480 we have permission 1236 00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:08,720 or we're sure is copyright free or 1237 00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,960 creative commons or we you know have 1238 00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:12,960 some arrangement in order to play it on 1239 00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:15,200 the show as a musical guest 1240 00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:17,520 but i hear you we have a kind generous 1241 00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:19,200 super chat of five dollars and three 1242 00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:20,160 cents 1243 00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:23,680 uh from area 503 who i can't wait 1244 00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,079 area 503 is producing the documentary 1245 00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,480 who's lou and it's all about lu el 1246 00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:30,240 essando and i'm going to get a sneak 1247 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:32,720 peek i hear so i'm real excited about 1248 00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,960 that and we're going to have area 503 1249 00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:36,160 here 1250 00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:39,280 after his premiere of this new work 1251 00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:41,839 to talk about it uh i can't wait for it 1252 00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:42,960 thank you for your kindness your 1253 00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:45,520 generosity and your support area 503 1254 00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:47,359 means a lot to me uh especially when 1255 00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:48,720 another show has throws you a couple 1256 00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:50,480 bucks you know you're probably doing 1257 00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:51,760 something right or another content 1258 00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:53,119 creator 1259 00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:55,359 b baker saying oh yeah copyright strikes 1260 00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,960 are no fun 1261 00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:58,400 by the way i just wanted to mention that 1262 00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,520 we have 1263 00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,520 um 1264 00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,280 we do have some rules here in our live 1265 00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:05,760 chat uh you know you can't make 1266 00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:08,000 um you can't make racist comments 1267 00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,119 homophobic comments transformic comments 1268 00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:13,599 you can't be personally attacking people 1269 00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:15,760 or you know inciting violence or 1270 00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:17,920 threatening people but other than that 1271 00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,200 we allow open and honest discussion here 1272 00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:24,000 so if you have an opinion that's fine we 1273 00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:26,480 don't censor opinions here 1274 00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:29,440 um and we don't generally censor people 1275 00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:30,960 by and large most people in the live 1276 00:58:34,829 --> 00:58:33,440 chat are pretty well behaved and if we 1277 00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:34,839 need to 1278 00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:39,119 we certainly uh remove people who are 1279 00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:41,040 doing those things i mentioned you can't 1280 00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:42,880 do on a live chat but if you just have 1281 00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:45,520 an opinion or you disagree with me 1282 00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:48,240 or you disagree with my research or what 1283 00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:50,559 we're talking about on the show hey go 1284 00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:52,880 for it uh we don't have an echo chamber 1285 00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:55,839 here and i hope to god we never do if i 1286 00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:58,000 get to the point where i need an echo 1287 00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:00,640 chamber in order to say i'm right about 1288 00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:02,240 something 1289 00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:04,079 that's a weak position to be in it means 1290 00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:07,760 that your evidence your story is so weak 1291 00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,079 it can withstand zero debate so you have 1292 00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:12,400 to remove people who disagree with you 1293 00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:15,359 so that others don't see that and agree 1294 00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:17,680 with the people that disagree with you 1295 00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:19,520 but it is what it is and this is where 1296 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,280 we find ourselves 1297 00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,280 uh success reminding people voicing your 1298 00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,200 opinion is totally encouraged but please 1299 00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:26,960 keep it respectful to both guests and 1300 00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:29,280 fellow chatters thank you yeah that's 1301 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:31,040 pretty much where we're at 1302 00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:32,400 and that girl jessica saying don't 1303 00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:39,190 b baker says the weekly world news 1304 00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:40,960 archive on google is a great source for 1305 00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,720 all kinds of paranormal 1306 00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:44,880 stories chipotle copper included and 1307 00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:46,880 it's all free yeah it's a cool uh 1308 00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:51,040 resource and i would be happy to uh also 1309 00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:53,440 have that uh resource i'm gonna check 1310 00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:56,079 that out and i'm gonna do something here 1311 00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:57,760 because 1312 01:00:01,190 --> 01:00:00,000 i i know that i tweeted out the show 1313 01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:01,200 earlier 1314 01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,680 but uh i'm gonna do it one more time 1315 01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:05,760 just to be sure 1316 01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,200 you know it's interesting but uh 1317 01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:11,520 you know drama sells right if i want to 1318 01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:13,680 come here and yell and scream about this 1319 01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:14,960 fraud or that 1320 01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:17,839 stupid story or this is garbage 1321 01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:19,440 you know uh 1322 01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,920 the viewership goes up and when i'm 1323 01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:23,599 presenting a more 1324 01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:26,480 refined you know well-researched 1325 01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:28,160 presentation 1326 01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:30,079 some people don't care if it's not in 1327 01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:31,760 their wheelhouse 1328 01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,839 uh certainly we are branching out into 1329 01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:35,760 other subjects not in our wheelhouse so 1330 01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:37,760 we may take a hit for that and i'm okay 1331 01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:40,000 with that i think in the long run it 1332 01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,480 helps us to uh to grow our tent here 1333 01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:46,559 every time we do veer off we get some 1334 01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:48,640 new subscribers that are into the 1335 01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:50,640 subject that we're covering 1336 01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:52,960 and i can't keep covering the same 1337 01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:55,119 topics and and 1338 01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:57,920 subcultures of subculture 1339 01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:59,920 on and on and on forever 1340 01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:01,040 uh 1341 01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:02,240 so 1342 01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:04,640 i'm gonna welcome everybody 1343 01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:06,640 uh on twitter to join us in the live 1344 01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:08,480 chat be sure to follow me it's at 1345 01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:10,319 stevencambian on twitter it's the best 1346 01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:11,760 way to know about stories that we're 1347 01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,799 covering 1348 01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:14,559 new shows that we're doing the live 1349 01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:16,880 chats that we're having i encourage you 1350 01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:25,589 and 1351 01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:30,480 bit of business is out of the way 1352 01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:31,599 um 1353 01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:33,040 and i'll devote my full and total 1354 01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:34,160 attention 1355 01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:36,480 to the live chat big fat creep says 1356 01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:39,680 dramatizations of drama is dramatic 1357 01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,799 yeah 1358 01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:42,000 uh 1359 01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:43,760 spooky says really great group we have 1360 01:01:48,309 --> 01:01:46,240 here hope we continue to grow 1361 01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:48,319 yeah i would hope so but uh 1362 01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:50,000 you know some people are just into what 1363 01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:52,160 they're into spooky and they don't care 1364 01:02:03,109 --> 01:01:53,359 to 1365 01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:03,119 seems though you know organically 1366 01:02:08,309 --> 01:02:05,359 that sort of happens because i suppose 1367 01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:08,319 my main interest has been uh 1368 01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,720 for a long time has been ufos and aliens 1369 01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,480 but after a while you get burned out of 1370 01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:14,559 the same old nothing burgers 1371 01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:18,559 and uh you want to go into other things 1372 01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:21,119 success reminding people chat please use 1373 01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:23,280 caps for comments questions suggestions 1374 01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:31,670 it's only taken me 1375 01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,670 but i think i finally got 1376 01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:39,520 the cough button 1377 01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:41,760 figured out so 1378 01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:43,520 thank god for small things 1379 01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:44,880 right 1380 01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:46,559 i think about the first six months every 1381 01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:48,480 time i hit that cough button i would 1382 01:02:52,390 --> 01:02:50,559 forget that i put it on and then i would 1383 01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:52,400 start talking and i'd be ten minutes in 1384 01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:58,710 so unidentified as forces growing 1385 01:03:01,829 --> 01:03:00,079 growing grow 1386 01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:01,839 sure 1387 01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:03,280 b baker says one of the initial 1388 01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:05,359 researchers in chupacabra was based in 1389 01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:07,280 puerto rico i don't know if he's still 1390 01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:08,880 alive but he would be a great interview 1391 01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:10,559 yeah i'd be more than willing to do that 1392 01:03:13,349 --> 01:03:11,680 right 1393 01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:13,359 on the rise says i'm glad to be part of 1394 01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:15,039 truth seekers views expressed openly 1395 01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,240 people are allowed to have their own 1396 01:03:20,309 --> 01:03:19,039 opinions yeah imagine that right 1397 01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:20,319 imagine that 1398 01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:23,440 and unidentified saying what's up all 1399 01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,720 uh we're going to be 1400 01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:26,640 sharing some videos and of course lee 1401 01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:28,880 guy is always here with the bacon what 1402 01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:32,319 do you know bacon tim frick is here 1403 01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:34,880 with a kind of generous ten dollar super 1404 01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,559 chat who says miss most of the show i 1405 01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:38,640 was driving home from work next time you 1406 01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:40,480 do a panel show i'd love to join keep up 1407 01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:42,000 the good work well tim frick you are 1408 01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,160 most welcome here usually when we do a 1409 01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,720 panel show i put the panel show 1410 01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:48,480 invitation right in the live chat and 1411 01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:50,640 anybody can join that's part of the 1412 01:03:53,589 --> 01:03:52,319 danger though that's why sometimes we 1413 01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:53,599 get people too drunk to really 1414 01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:56,799 participate falling over or 1415 01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:58,319 some of the other things that we have 1416 01:04:01,349 --> 01:04:00,400 had here right 1417 01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:01,359 um 1418 01:04:08,870 --> 01:04:07,029 and i did find uh more resources we 1419 01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:08,880 could always do a part two on this 1420 01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:10,960 chupacabra but i think we covered most 1421 01:04:17,029 --> 01:04:14,160 of what we needed to uh cover that girl 1422 01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:17,039 jessica saying check out carnival 1423 01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:19,920 the mata and butterfly effect always in 1424 01:04:24,230 --> 01:04:21,680 cage uh 1425 01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:24,240 i love that movie butterfly effect 1426 01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:26,559 tim frick says yeah 400th show was great 1427 01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:28,400 well if you count people falling over 1428 01:04:32,870 --> 01:04:30,240 drunk as as great 1429 01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:32,880 then i would suppose that yeah it is it 1430 01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:35,039 was right it was 1431 01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:37,280 so we're coming in way under time and i 1432 01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:39,200 don't know if we're gonna bounce on out 1433 01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:41,359 of here or i will just take questions 1434 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:42,720 and comments for a while because we 1435 01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:45,760 haven't done that in a while this uh 1436 01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:47,760 you know open conversation give some 1437 01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:50,000 time to the live chat 1438 01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:53,280 um and i did see uh jamie from that one 1439 01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:55,280 time i got abducted by aliens was pissed 1440 01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:56,720 off at me because we were covering 1441 01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:58,559 cryptids and didn't invite them 1442 01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:00,160 and i said they could come after the 1443 01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:01,680 presentation wanted to get through that 1444 01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:04,000 because it's a lot of uh data points and 1445 01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,920 research to get through to share with 1446 01:05:10,710 --> 01:05:07,440 everyone 1447 01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:10,720 would anyone eat at chubacabra um i 1448 01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:13,039 think that would be crazy call-ins yeah 1449 01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:15,119 i mean if people want to we could we 1450 01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:16,880 could try to call in number you know 1451 01:05:20,789 --> 01:05:18,480 what we haven't done open lines in a 1452 01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:20,799 long time so here's what i'm going to do 1453 01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:22,079 i'm going gonna make sure that my phone 1454 01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:24,480 is prepped for this and yeah we're gonna 1455 01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:26,559 take some calls 1456 01:05:30,789 --> 01:05:29,200 i've got more time to offer you 1457 01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:30,799 right now 1458 01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:33,119 so uh 1459 01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:36,880 or if somebody wants to join and 1460 01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:39,280 wants the stream yard invitation link i 1461 01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,440 will send that out 1462 01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:43,359 one second 1463 01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:45,280 we'll take stream yard calls first we're 1464 01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:46,960 going to take regular calls because it's 1465 01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:49,200 old school and it's fun 1466 01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:51,359 and i grew up listening to call in talk 1467 01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:54,160 radio shows that's why we do it honestly 1468 01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:56,160 the reason that i do that is a nostalgic 1469 01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,039 reason because growing up i had terrible 1470 01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:01,440 insomnia as a child and later as a 1471 01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:04,559 teenager and later as an early adult and 1472 01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:07,599 to this day as an adult i have terrible 1473 01:06:13,109 --> 01:06:10,160 insomnia and i can't sleep 1474 01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:13,119 um so what i do is i listen to uh talk 1475 01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:17,119 radio sometimes now i i listen to 1476 01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:18,480 podcasts 1477 01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,640 and that sort of lulls me 1478 01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:22,880 takes me out of my own mind to someplace 1479 01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:24,799 else for a little while i guess 1480 01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:28,400 and lets me actually sleep 1481 01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:29,520 so 1482 01:06:34,069 --> 01:06:32,400 let me see here 1483 01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:34,079 that of two swords says yeah i love 1484 01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:37,440 collins well people say that 1485 01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:39,200 big fat creeps says that's cool didn't 1486 01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:40,400 know you could take collins yeah we 1487 01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:41,520 haven't done it in a while because 1488 01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:43,440 that's a that's a tight rope walk in a 1489 01:06:50,470 --> 01:06:47,280 roller coaster ride sometimes too right 1490 01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:50,480 mike campbell again valley gambili says 1491 01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:53,200 you need indica yeah maybe maybe i do 1492 01:06:57,910 --> 01:06:55,440 need it uh but i've tried that and it's 1493 01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:57,920 not it's not really working for me you 1494 01:07:02,309 --> 01:07:00,960 know it relaxes me but it doesn't really 1495 01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:02,319 put me out 1496 01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,319 right 1497 01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:06,240 so hold on one second i'm trying to find 1498 01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:08,160 the banner we haven't we haven't taken 1499 01:07:12,829 --> 01:07:10,000 live callers in quite a while i'm gonna 1500 01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:12,839 find the banner for that 1501 01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:15,680 um i mean the the bumper we have plays 1502 01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:17,839 the uh 1503 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:19,680 plays the phone number 1504 01:07:23,270 --> 01:07:21,599 but i thought we had a bra we have 1505 01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:23,280 something we see we haven't done this in 1506 01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,880 a while 1507 01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:26,400 oh here we go 1508 01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:31,440 open phone lines call it's 267-482-0612 1509 01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,039 make sure that if you get a busy signal 1510 01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:35,520 or a voicemail you realize we've only 1511 01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:36,799 got one phone line so that means 1512 01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:41,119 somebody else is on the line try back at 1513 01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:45,349 um i'm gonna play our call in line 1514 01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:47,119 bumper and when we come back maybe we'll 1515 01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,640 take some live calls if that doesn't 1516 01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:50,400 work i'm putting the stream yard invite 1517 01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:52,400 link in the live chat and you two can 1518 01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:53,520 join here 1519 01:09:13,189 --> 01:07:56,160 and you can be a part of the show as 1520 01:09:13,199 --> 01:10:01,510 so 1521 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,390 and we are back 1522 01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:06,790 so uh what i'm doing right now i'm also 1523 01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:11,199 copying the show invitation link here in 1524 01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:13,520 and i will be putting it into the live 1525 01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:15,520 chat which means we can take regular 1526 01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:18,880 calls on on a phone yeah old school you 1527 01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:20,320 know you pick up your phone and you call 1528 01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:22,560 us and we take your call 1529 01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:24,640 or we can take a stream yard call which 1530 01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:27,600 is much like a zoom call or a skype call 1531 01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,640 but you don't actually need anything um 1532 01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:32,480 it works in any browser but i ask 1533 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:34,320 everybody please please wear headphones 1534 01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,000 especially if we get multiple people on 1535 01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:38,400 here because it turns into a circus so 1536 01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:40,320 fast if people are wearing headphones 1537 01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:42,400 turns to an echoey mess and then i have 1538 01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:45,840 to hear complaints from the audiophiles 1539 01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:48,000 who think i have like a 64 channel 1540 01:10:53,669 --> 01:10:51,679 mixing console here running this audio 1541 01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:53,679 you know we do the best that we can so 1542 01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,679 i'm going to put invitation to join the 1543 01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:56,880 show 1544 01:11:02,390 --> 01:10:59,360 no nudity that's important you can't be 1545 01:11:04,229 --> 01:11:02,400 nude uh no nudity 1546 01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:04,239 and headphones please that just means 1547 01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:05,760 put on a pair of headphones before you 1548 01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:07,920 hit that invitation link and try to join 1549 01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:10,560 the show it really really does help you 1550 01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:14,560 know i'm sorry to be uh to ask that but 1551 01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,719 that panel show that we had it turned 1552 01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:18,719 into uh 1553 01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:21,520 it turned into such uh a weird thing 1554 01:11:25,910 --> 01:11:23,840 right it was so weird 1555 01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:25,920 and i'm checking the phone i've got my 1556 01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:28,560 do not disturb off 1557 01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:30,800 and i think there's one time we did this 1558 01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:32,480 and i had my do not disturb on the whole 1559 01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:34,560 time so i didn't hear any calls 1560 01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:36,080 you know 1561 01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:38,800 really really great at the show hosting 1562 01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:39,600 thing 1563 01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:41,840 the problem generally is that you know 1564 01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:43,199 uh 1565 01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:44,880 trying to be a one-man army and be a 1566 01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:46,000 host while you're doing all the 1567 01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:47,440 technical stuff 1568 01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:50,239 it's definitely got its downsides here 1569 01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:52,320 but we are still uh 1570 01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:58,070 people are saying no nudity come on 1571 01:12:02,310 --> 01:11:59,440 maybe that's why we haven't gotten any 1572 01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:02,320 takers yet because we have no nudity 1573 01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:03,520 right 1574 01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:06,480 no nudity yeah well youtube doesn't like 1575 01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:07,520 it 1576 01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,990 yeah so let's just share while we're 1577 01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:21,440 i'm going to share a little bit more of 1578 01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:25,120 this captured chubacabra video 1579 01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:26,640 and again we're going to cite fair use 1580 01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:28,560 this is transformative work we're 1581 01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:30,640 educating the public 1582 01:12:33,679 --> 01:12:37,910 discussing this yeah 1583 01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:40,470 he is not happy 1584 01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:43,040 yeah it doesn't look like a happy guy 1585 01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,709 he will bite us though we really gotta 1586 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:52,159 stay back like if you were to stick your 1587 01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,520 finger in there he would bite you and 1588 01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:55,040 you could get rabies like you'd have to 1589 01:13:05,030 --> 01:12:57,520 go through a series of rabies shots 1590 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:14,229 he smells like a dog 1591 01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:16,709 yeah it's a sad sad thing right people 1592 01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,800 are commenting and sad in the live chat 1593 01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:20,400 i thought he would be bigger too he may 1594 01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:23,199 be young kind of i don't know 1595 01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:25,679 he's skinny you know he's clearly out of 1596 01:13:29,830 --> 01:13:27,600 shape he's not healthy 1597 01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:29,840 the mange has correct caused him to have 1598 01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:32,560 all kinds of problems and he's just 1599 01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:34,000 he's not a normal coyote he's a 1600 01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:35,840 chupacabra no wonder i've been seeing 1601 01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:38,800 lots of coyote tracks around here 1602 01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:40,480 yeah you're right we have seen lots of 1603 01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:42,159 coyote tracks and it's good we've got 1604 01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,600 them because we do have young calves on 1605 01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,360 the property and something 1606 01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:46,880 this 1607 01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:48,480 injured and 1608 01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:50,640 yeah an injured coyote will go after 1609 01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:52,480 prey they don't usually go after they 1610 01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:54,560 become more opportunistic 1611 01:14:00,950 --> 01:13:57,840 in an attempt to survive right 1612 01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:00,960 so they can become dangerous again very 1613 01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:03,440 sad right 1614 01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:11,750 there we go so uh i will take some 1615 01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:13,360 comments and questions from the live 1616 01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:15,040 chat 1617 01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,000 um 1618 01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:18,320 victor cagliaro is there a treatment for 1619 01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,520 mange yes it's actually a very easy 1620 01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:23,679 treatment they treat them with uh 1621 01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:25,440 something that sort of gets rid of the 1622 01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:28,719 mites the bugs off of their skin 1623 01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:30,080 and then they 1624 01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:32,239 begin to recover if you know if you have 1625 01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,320 a dog with mange 1626 01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:36,719 you take it to a veterinarian they treat 1627 01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:39,679 it for the mange and then once the mites 1628 01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:42,320 are removed from the equation then what 1629 01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:44,239 happens is the 1630 01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,600 um 1631 01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:47,760 is the hair begins to grow back and they 1632 01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:49,840 begin to be much more healthy 1633 01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:51,120 right after that 1634 01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,590 and the bigfoot creep says yes there's 1635 01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,600 treatment i'm not familiar exactly what 1636 01:15:05,430 --> 01:14:59,280 the treatment is 1637 01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:07,350 there is definitely a treatment which 1638 01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:09,920 you know i i wish to any animal that's 1639 01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:10,960 suffering 1640 01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:13,040 like this gets a treatment because it's 1641 01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:14,880 sad for me to see that 1642 01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:19,189 cosmic uterus i have a question do you 1643 01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:23,040 meditate yes i definitely try um 1644 01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:25,600 i do several forms of what most would 1645 01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:27,840 consider buddhist meditation 1646 01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:30,159 and i try to do it daily but i'm kind of 1647 01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:30,960 uh 1648 01:15:34,709 --> 01:15:33,440 i'm kind of a slacker and what turns out 1649 01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:34,719 uh i 1650 01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:36,800 i slack off and don't do it as much as i 1651 01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:38,480 should i'm going to try to dedicate more 1652 01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:40,640 time to it in the coming year but you 1653 01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:42,640 know that new year new me it might wear 1654 01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:44,320 off and i'll go right back to doing it 1655 01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,080 only a few times a week 1656 01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:48,400 sometimes i do it more when i'm having 1657 01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:52,080 trouble with things like my anger issues 1658 01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:53,840 everybody knows i have anger issues or 1659 01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:56,640 hey how about my uh 1660 01:15:59,590 --> 01:15:57,520 uh 1661 01:16:01,430 --> 01:15:59,600 lack of patience with my children causes 1662 01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:01,440 me to want to medicate 1663 01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:04,239 medicate i mean meditate more 1664 01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,159 that was a freudian slip if i ever heard 1665 01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:10,310 my lack of patience with my children 1666 01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:12,159 causes me to want to medicate no no 1667 01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:14,080 meditate i mean it caused me to want to 1668 01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:16,239 do both honestly whatever i have to do 1669 01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:17,840 to gain the 1670 01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:20,480 patience to deal with the daddy duty you 1671 01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:22,000 know i'm trying to i'm trying the best 1672 01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:24,080 that i can here today was a crazy 1673 01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:25,840 situation because oh and now we're 1674 01:16:31,270 --> 01:16:28,080 getting panel members dropping in we 1675 01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:31,280 have a few backstage so uh here we go 1676 01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:32,239 um 1677 01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,560 yeah today was a crazy day because it's 1678 01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:36,480 10 degrees outside 1679 01:16:39,990 --> 01:16:37,760 and 1680 01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:40,000 we have a pipe in our laundry room that 1681 01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:43,600 freezes if it drops below 15 or so 1682 01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:45,760 and so i have to keep a fire going in 1683 01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:48,320 the fireplace wood stove in order to 1684 01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:49,840 keep that pipe from 1685 01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:51,600 from freezing and so i've been 1686 01:16:56,149 --> 01:16:54,480 multitasking all day keep the fire going 1687 01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:56,159 it's been going all day since this 1688 01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:58,880 morning at 8 a.m 1689 01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:01,440 and it's still going right now 1690 01:17:04,229 --> 01:17:02,480 and while 1691 01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,239 trying to get a fire going i'm trying to 1692 01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:06,400 write this story and prep for tonight's 1693 01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:09,120 show i'm making dinner i'm getting my 1694 01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:10,880 kids off the bus it's been a 1695 01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:13,840 multitasking kind of a day 1696 01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:15,440 here we go we're going to bring on our 1697 01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:16,239 uh 1698 01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:18,719 our panel members we have this this is 1699 01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:23,990 what's up 1700 01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:26,719 yeah and here we have uh tim frick is 1701 01:17:31,750 --> 01:17:29,600 here long time supporter of the show 1702 01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:31,760 good to see you there how you doing 1703 01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:33,040 good tim 1704 01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:37,510 now i i just wanted to start out i i 1705 01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:39,280 don't want to stay here forever that's 1706 01:17:42,310 --> 01:17:40,880 for sure 1707 01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:42,320 you know what i see you know what i see 1708 01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:45,280 is that you know people want to believe 1709 01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:46,880 you know in the mythical creatures that 1710 01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,280 they've that they've read about and you 1711 01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:51,040 know and then they find something such 1712 01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:54,640 as that that that you know the dog there 1713 01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:57,040 you know in in bad shape i mean 1714 01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:59,120 i'm not saying that with given crispr 1715 01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:01,920 technology that these things are not 1716 01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:03,760 possible i mean and that's kind of scary 1717 01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:06,960 to think and and i think that that's the 1718 01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:08,800 that's the scary part for me 1719 01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:10,560 these things might eventually become a 1720 01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:13,199 reality at some future day just because 1721 01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:15,840 somebody needs to fulfill their need to 1722 01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,080 to create some mythical creature from 1723 01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:20,960 from the storybooks it could be and here 1724 01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:23,840 we have off world adam is here as well 1725 01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:25,360 with his own chuba copper in the 1726 01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:28,320 background there and and tim the sixth 1727 01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:29,920 sense and off-world adam should know 1728 01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,760 that there's a private chat here for our 1729 01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:33,360 panel members and right now will be a 1730 01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,520 good time to check that private chat if 1731 01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:37,920 you can because sometimes i need to 1732 01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:39,520 communicate something 1733 01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:42,239 and uh i've put something in the private 1734 01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:43,840 chat 1735 01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:46,080 that uh you guys should all see 1736 01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,800 so 1737 01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:48,480 off world adam is here welcome all for 1738 01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:50,480 all that 1739 01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:53,199 hello hello how how is everybody 1740 01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,679 good are you are you a you are right in 1741 01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:57,600 time with us tonight not eight seconds 1742 01:19:02,470 --> 01:18:59,920 behind so that's progress 1743 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:02,480 oh wow i was behind it last time wow 1744 01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:04,000 okay 1745 01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:05,840 yeah do you remember the panel show you 1746 01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:07,520 were like way behind i don't know if 1747 01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:09,040 there was latency but you were like 1748 01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:10,880 eight seconds behind everybody else and 1749 01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:12,080 then it caused you to talk over 1750 01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:14,560 everybody and that was a mess so oh man 1751 01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:17,280 it seems to be synchronizing more 1752 01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:19,040 yeah you know what i mean 1753 01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:20,480 really choppy 1754 01:19:23,350 --> 01:19:22,000 yeah here i'll put it over here in the 1755 01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:23,360 private sector you know what i do you 1756 01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:26,080 know what i do oh sorry 1757 01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:29,040 if if you were if you are uh if you were 1758 01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:31,120 on a regular browser you'll see up on 1759 01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:32,800 the uh right hand side is something 1760 01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:35,280 called private chat and you want to look 1761 01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:37,040 take a look at that 1762 01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:38,320 if possible 1763 01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:40,400 yep 1764 01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:42,080 there's a message right at the top for 1765 01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:42,880 you 1766 01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:44,400 and that's no hard feelings it's just 1767 01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:46,560 youtube 1768 01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:47,440 yeah 1769 01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:50,400 i don't know how to get out of this 1770 01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:52,719 private chat now 1771 01:20:02,310 --> 01:19:55,920 oh you just you should be able to just 1772 01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:04,630 here's what i do i pop the chat out and 1773 01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:07,040 then i close the video window and then i 1774 01:20:10,550 --> 01:20:08,800 just watch it through stream yard and 1775 01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:10,560 that seems to work quite nicely there 1776 01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:12,800 yeah no i had a private message for tim 1777 01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:14,560 there in the private chat but i guess he 1778 01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:17,280 didn't read it so i got something that's 1779 01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,440 okay can you hear me yeah yeah yeah i 1780 01:20:24,070 --> 01:20:21,679 could hear you fine it's just you know 1781 01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:24,080 youtube has rules about some things so i 1782 01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:25,520 was trying to just let you know that 1783 01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:26,480 that's all 1784 01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:28,560 let's see 1785 01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:31,199 oh wait a minute maybe wait a minute 1786 01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,360 you know what i i think i'm i was wrong 1787 01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:35,600 with what i thought you had 1788 01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:37,360 never mind oh no no no 1789 01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:40,880 that's a microphone okay okay all right 1790 01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:43,520 i thought that was a i thought it was i 1791 01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:45,920 thought you were holding a paraphernalia 1792 01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:48,719 device no that's over there 1793 01:20:53,590 --> 01:20:50,800 that's good and that's fine that's fine 1794 01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:53,600 i just i saw a puff of smoke i saw you 1795 01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:55,280 holding that and i'm like oh no that's 1796 01:20:58,790 --> 01:20:56,800 not good for youtube 1797 01:21:01,350 --> 01:20:58,800 this is a coffee mug 1798 01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:01,360 on screen i don't have a mic no it's 1799 01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:02,800 quite all right then 1800 01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:05,280 so uh what do you think of this of this 1801 01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:07,520 story tonight tim is this anything more 1802 01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:08,639 than miss 1803 01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:10,719 identified animals well i caught the 1804 01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:12,560 last part of it but i had an experience 1805 01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:13,600 myself 1806 01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:15,920 uh years ago you saw chupacabra i don't 1807 01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:17,199 know what the [\h__\h] 1808 01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:20,080 what i saw but um 1809 01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:23,040 i was driving home late and uh i drive 1810 01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:26,800 down um country roads uh right by where 1811 01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:28,000 you said you used to live in browns 1812 01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:29,600 mills i go down 1813 01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:31,600 florence and columbus road 1814 01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:33,920 uh to go home to mount holly 1815 01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:36,159 and uh on the left side of the road they 1816 01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:37,199 were like 1817 01:21:41,590 --> 01:21:39,520 what looked like uh 1818 01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:41,600 a golden retriever 1819 01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:43,600 or a reddish 1820 01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:45,120 like irish setter 1821 01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:46,159 and 1822 01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:48,000 maybe like uh 1823 01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:49,440 i don't know something else maybe a cat 1824 01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:51,040 next to it or something 1825 01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:52,880 and then i'm driving and i'm like 1826 01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:54,880 they're facing the road and i'm like 1827 01:21:58,310 --> 01:21:56,800 don't don't run in the road because i'm 1828 01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:58,320 running over because there's ditches on 1829 01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:00,480 either side of this road 1830 01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:01,760 so and 1831 01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:03,440 right when i get up to it 1832 01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:05,280 the dog 1833 01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:06,719 runs in the road 1834 01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:08,560 so i brace 1835 01:22:13,430 --> 01:22:11,360 myself to run him someone run him over 1836 01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:13,440 right before sorry right before i ran 1837 01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:15,280 him over he stood up 1838 01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:21,030 it looked like 1839 01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:22,639 an orangutan 1840 01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:24,480 it looked like a yeah you never know 1841 01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:26,320 because did you know that there are many 1842 01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:28,320 bigfoot sightings 1843 01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:30,159 that turn that turn out to be 1844 01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:32,000 misidentified 1845 01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:33,280 feral 1846 01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:35,840 uh great apes like people get them as 1847 01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,480 pets uh most often chimpanzees 1848 01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:40,400 and after they get a certain age they 1849 01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:41,360 become 1850 01:22:44,709 --> 01:22:43,120 too much to handle for most people 1851 01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:44,719 they're they're five times stronger than 1852 01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:47,679 a human so they get they get grabby with 1853 01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:50,080 females and other things and people go 1854 01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:51,679 that's enough and they put them out in 1855 01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:53,600 the woods or something and then people 1856 01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:56,000 start seeing them and they survive some 1857 01:23:00,229 --> 01:22:58,080 of them survive for a while 1858 01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:00,239 that's what many people think this uh 1859 01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,800 skunk ape of florida it looks very 1860 01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:04,880 clearly like somebody 1861 01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:06,800 like it was an orangutan 1862 01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:08,880 like a orangutan just got out in the 1863 01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:10,480 middle of the florida swamp somewhere 1864 01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:12,719 and was living in there that's well how 1865 01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:15,520 many people release their pet 1866 01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:17,760 you know pythons or boas whatever they 1867 01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:24,149 yeah i know some kid growing up that he 1868 01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:26,320 had an alligator that he kept in tanks 1869 01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:27,679 and he kept getting a bigger tank and a 1870 01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:30,239 bigger tank and eventually his parents 1871 01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:32,080 were like this thing's getting huge they 1872 01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:33,280 had to call like 1873 01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:35,199 somebody from the zoo came and got it 1874 01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:36,400 and it was a big thing in our 1875 01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:37,920 neighborhood like 1876 01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:38,800 like 1877 01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:40,719 he's got an alligator and they're coming 1878 01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:43,040 to get it it's in his basement and then 1879 01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:45,199 we're in the middle of the city so this 1880 01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,400 was some funny [\h__\h] you know this is 1881 01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,480 good 1882 01:23:54,070 --> 01:23:52,159 he was in my grade and we went to the 1883 01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,080 same school so i was in his basement we 1884 01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:56,400 seen it he let me feed it one time and i 1885 01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:57,920 remember seeing it when he first got it 1886 01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,320 was just this little and i'm like that's 1887 01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,320 not really an alligator as it was like 1888 01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:04,400 this big it was not huge it looked like 1889 01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:06,639 an alligator but this big and then 1890 01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,400 months later i go back and he's got in 1891 01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:10,800 this huge tank and it's like this 1892 01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:13,360 you know so eventually his mom got on 1893 01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:15,360 his cake like what the hell dude you 1894 01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:17,520 gotta do something about this thing get 1895 01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:20,320 ready let me out 1896 01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:21,360 yeah 1897 01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:22,960 i think they took it to the philadelphia 1898 01:24:27,669 --> 01:24:25,679 zoo as i recall best like ever called i 1899 01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:27,679 took it to the philadelphia zoo and and 1900 01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:29,600 it may still be there for all i know you 1901 01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:30,719 know 1902 01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:32,960 dude when i was at the maguire i used to 1903 01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:35,920 be active duty air force this uh dude 1904 01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:38,159 used to have a python 1905 01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:40,639 and he used to go to the 1906 01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:43,520 animal shelter and get cats and 1907 01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:46,239 dogs and that's what you'd feed the 1908 01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:47,679 python with 1909 01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:48,880 jesus 1910 01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:49,920 yeah 1911 01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:51,679 the pet stores will look down upon that 1912 01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:54,080 if you know what you're using for i did 1913 01:24:57,270 --> 01:24:55,840 magic shows and so once in a while i'd 1914 01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:57,280 be looking around for a rabbit and i 1915 01:25:01,030 --> 01:24:59,360 can't tell you how many rabbit people 1916 01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:01,040 that are giving away rabbits they have 1917 01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:03,760 to tell you like they they go 1918 01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,520 you don't have a snake do you you don't 1919 01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:07,760 have any kind of reptile do you because 1920 01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:08,960 people do the same thing with the 1921 01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:10,800 rabbits they go get the free rabbit and 1922 01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:12,880 they feed it to the python or whatever i 1923 01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:15,440 got a magic question question for you 1924 01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:17,760 did you ever see that um uh hugh jackman 1925 01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:18,719 movie 1926 01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:20,239 where he's a magician 1927 01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:22,400 sure 1928 01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:24,880 delusionalist or something right yeah he 1929 01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:27,280 really kill them doves when they do a 1930 01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:29,360 trick oh no no no here actually you're 1931 01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:31,199 talking about the prestige i believe 1932 01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:33,280 okay there was two that were released 1933 01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:34,800 right around the same time and both of 1934 01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:37,120 them are great movies yeah uh the 1935 01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:40,560 illusionist and the prestige and no 1936 01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:44,560 no that that well wait a minute 1937 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:47,040 at some point in time 1938 01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:48,560 i cannot deny 1939 01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:51,199 that methods that were that i'll just 1940 01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:52,480 say it this way 1941 01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:55,520 at some point in time and way way back 1942 01:26:01,750 --> 01:25:59,120 in history in the history of magic shows 1943 01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:01,760 i i cannot deny that people may have 1944 01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:04,239 used methods that were extremely cruel 1945 01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:06,480 to perform tricks with animals but at 1946 01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,159 some point the magicians got together 1947 01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:10,560 and said that's cruel and unusual 1948 01:26:15,030 --> 01:26:12,960 punishment that's terrible we can't do 1949 01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:15,040 it and now 1950 01:26:19,110 --> 01:26:16,800 going forward i'd say from like the 1951 01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:19,120 1800s forward 1952 01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:21,120 all the magicians pretty much agree that 1953 01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:22,960 you you don't hurt any animals that you 1954 01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:25,760 use and i can't tell you i did magic 1955 01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:27,840 show with doves right when that movie 1956 01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:29,280 came out 1957 01:26:33,990 --> 01:26:31,600 every show we did a meet and greet after 1958 01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:34,000 the show i had a hundred people say did 1959 01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:35,520 you kill that dove tonight that you 1960 01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,159 vanished and i had it i i almost went to 1961 01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:40,800 show them how i did it just so that they 1962 01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,159 were to know 1963 01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:44,400 they're like no that's not how it's done 1964 01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,320 it's i'm like that's the easy way just 1965 01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:48,320 killing things you know 1966 01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:54,550 i used to keep a peta card because once 1967 01:26:58,870 --> 01:26:56,159 in a while there'd be some peter person 1968 01:27:00,629 --> 01:26:58,880 that thought that me using animals in my 1969 01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:00,639 show was cruel and i said 1970 01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:03,360 no i i donate to peta we take care of 1971 01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:05,040 these animals a lot of people don't know 1972 01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:07,040 but doves especially 1973 01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:09,280 if you release one of those white doves 1974 01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:10,800 you know people would tell me some 1975 01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:12,080 people animal people would say you 1976 01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:14,239 should just let those doves go in the 1977 01:27:18,229 --> 01:27:16,639 forest if i release the white doves that 1978 01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:18,239 i use they're domesticated animals 1979 01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:19,840 they're they're not meant for the forest 1980 01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:21,520 if i release that in a forest it'll be 1981 01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:22,239 dead 1982 01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:26,800 because of its white coloring somebody 1983 01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:28,800 would get it now ring neck doves have a 1984 01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:30,239 little more they're brown they have a 1985 01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:32,080 little more they can survive but white 1986 01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:34,480 java dots they can't survive in the wild 1987 01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:36,960 and they'd be dead in a month my dogs 1988 01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:39,040 someone's feeding them right 1989 01:27:43,590 --> 01:27:41,520 i have some dubs that are 20 years old 1990 01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:43,600 right now they've been with me for 20 1991 01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:45,760 years so i take very good care of them 1992 01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:46,880 and i still have them even though i'm 1993 01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:49,280 not doing magic shows like you know 1994 01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,520 my son has two mickey and minnie he 1995 01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:53,360 named them and they've been with us for 1996 01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:55,360 five years now i think 1997 01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:57,440 four years i don't know but we take good 1998 01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:00,800 care of them 1999 01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:06,629 no i don't know about that 2000 01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:08,960 i've never been a fan but i i did try to 2001 01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:10,800 work that into a trick once you know 2002 01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:14,080 dove soap turning into a real dove oh 2003 01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:16,159 nice i've seen somebody else do a trick 2004 01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:17,199 like that 2005 01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:19,199 so so what's the chance that a 2006 01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,600 chupacabra i have a trouble saying that 2007 01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:24,400 name um can actually 2008 01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:25,840 get to be one 2009 01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:28,080 you know through uh however you believe 2010 01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:29,920 or whatever you believe you know do you 2011 01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:31,840 think nature could actually create such 2012 01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:33,199 a creature 2013 01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:35,199 is it even possible 2014 01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:37,600 species can only cross breed with very 2015 01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,960 very close 2016 01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:40,639 relatives so i don't think so not 2017 01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:42,400 naturally not without a lot of 2018 01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:44,480 laboratory intervention could you right 2019 01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:46,960 that's what i'm talking about yeah 2020 01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,679 well 2021 01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,840 what about the story about this the seal 2022 01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:51,520 people or something like that have you 2023 01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:53,199 heard about that 2024 01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:54,960 i know that's another crazy rabbit hole 2025 01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,440 though i have it on my list okay steel 2026 01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:59,040 people 2027 01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:00,719 yeah there's some 2028 01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:07,430 never heard of that i've never heard of 2029 01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:08,800 it 2030 01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:10,800 there's legends of almost every kind of 2031 01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:12,639 people crossed with animals there's one 2032 01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:15,760 step back dog people cat people 2033 01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:18,239 and yeah seal people 2034 01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:19,920 and some people say that this people 2035 01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:22,000 okay but maybe a better question is is 2036 01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,080 do you think it'll ever become a reality 2037 01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:26,639 that they will actually cross 2038 01:29:29,830 --> 01:29:27,840 multiple i mean 2039 01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:29,840 and do it without people complaining i 2040 01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:31,679 mean i think that that's right 2041 01:29:35,830 --> 01:29:33,600 oh yeah i think that it's very likely 2042 01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:35,840 that that somebody is going to not care 2043 01:29:40,310 --> 01:29:38,480 about the rules about crossing species 2044 01:29:42,629 --> 01:29:40,320 in fact we covered you know what another 2045 01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:42,639 crazy story we cover here is the two man 2046 01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:43,520 z 2047 01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:45,600 people actually tried to cross 2048 01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:48,239 chimpanzees and people that's and it 2049 01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:50,000 really happened somebody really tried to 2050 01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:52,320 do that it didn't work apparently or 2051 01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:53,760 most people believe it didn't work 2052 01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:56,320 because it's not close enough 2053 01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:57,840 uh genetically 2054 01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:59,920 but people tried it apparently stalin 2055 01:30:01,910 --> 01:30:00,719 was 2056 01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:01,920 thinking that if he could cross 2057 01:30:05,910 --> 01:30:03,760 chimpanzees and humans he could create 2058 01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:05,920 some kind of soldier race that would 2059 01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:08,639 fight for russia that's crazy and they 2060 01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:11,040 [\h__\h] it extremely horribly wrong an 2061 01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:13,600 alien alien three like the movie alien 2062 01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:14,880 three didn't go 2063 01:30:20,709 --> 01:30:15,920 wrong 2064 01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:20,719 don't cross the streams right yeah yeah 2065 01:30:25,189 --> 01:30:22,880 uh i remember playing b says something 2066 01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:25,199 some dude just got a some dude just got 2067 01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:28,159 a pig heart put in his body yes yes 2068 01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:30,320 that it was a pig heart that was 2069 01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:32,480 specifically grown to be put in humans 2070 01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:35,440 they put some human dna or cells in the 2071 01:30:39,990 --> 01:30:37,679 pig that's going to be the organ donor 2072 01:30:42,149 --> 01:30:40,000 to make it more acceptable to the human 2073 01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:42,159 body that's a lot of research going on 2074 01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:44,320 right now so some dude right now is 2075 01:30:47,189 --> 01:30:45,760 walking around with a big heart in them 2076 01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:47,199 that's crazy 2077 01:30:52,149 --> 01:30:49,280 i think there's a a pharmacy somewhere 2078 01:30:53,510 --> 01:30:52,159 in like england that are like 96 percent 2079 01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:53,520 human 2080 01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:55,840 you know they have 96 dna 2081 01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:58,320 is it really yeah yes 2082 01:31:01,750 --> 01:30:59,760 and they and they have people that have 2083 01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:01,760 to monitor them 2084 01:31:04,629 --> 01:31:03,199 just in case they start acting a little 2085 01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:04,639 bit weird 2086 01:31:22,870 --> 01:31:06,639 i'm not kidding let's see 2087 01:31:27,910 --> 01:31:24,950 looking into cloning 2088 01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:27,920 and uh that came up 2089 01:31:33,189 --> 01:31:30,400 86 percent 2090 01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:33,199 human big hybrid created known a lab 2091 01:31:38,550 --> 01:31:35,840 here are the facts there you go 2092 01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:38,560 oh no it's it's it might be real look at 2093 01:31:42,070 --> 01:31:39,760 this this is 2094 01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:42,080 [\h__\h] is crazy this is the world we live 2095 01:31:48,149 --> 01:31:42,880 in 2096 01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:48,159 oh it's 2097 01:31:53,110 --> 01:31:51,440 just gonna want my email address now 2098 01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:53,120 sorry we'll try to find an alternate 2099 01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:54,639 source for the human 2100 01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:57,360 hybrid pig story 2101 01:32:00,390 --> 01:31:59,520 yeah i mean there's a there's a lot of 2102 01:32:02,709 --> 01:32:00,400 uh 2103 01:32:04,709 --> 01:32:02,719 there's a lot of stories out there 2104 01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:04,719 they don't look human they just look 2105 01:32:10,390 --> 01:32:08,000 like pigs but their dna is 2106 01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:10,400 is like yeah i found an alternate source 2107 01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:12,639 for that story it appears to be that we 2108 01:32:16,870 --> 01:32:14,960 have created somebody created a pig 2109 01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:16,880 human hybrid 2110 01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:19,760 look at that the first human pig hybrid 2111 01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:22,800 embryo has been created in the lab 2112 01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:23,920 for the first time and again we're 2113 01:32:26,790 --> 01:32:25,280 citing fair use for the first time 2114 01:32:28,629 --> 01:32:26,800 researchers have successfully grown 2115 01:32:30,470 --> 01:32:28,639 human cells inside early stage pig 2116 01:32:31,669 --> 01:32:30,480 embryos in the lab creating pig human 2117 01:32:33,510 --> 01:32:31,679 hybrids 2118 01:32:36,629 --> 01:32:33,520 which the researchers describe as 2119 01:32:37,990 --> 01:32:36,639 interspecies chimeras while still early 2120 01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:38,000 experiment 2121 01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:42,400 to lab-grown human organs that can be 2122 01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:44,080 transplanted into those who need them 2123 01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:46,400 potentially saving thousands of lives in 2124 01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:48,239 the experiment researchers in the u.s 2125 01:32:52,390 --> 01:32:50,320 injected human stem cells into 2126 01:32:54,070 --> 01:32:52,400 early-stage pig embryos these hybrid 2127 01:32:55,750 --> 01:32:54,080 embryos were transferred into surrogate 2128 01:32:58,550 --> 01:32:55,760 cells and allowed to develop until the 2129 01:33:01,510 --> 01:32:58,560 first trimester more than a hundred they 2130 01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:01,520 did 150 of the embryos developed in the 2131 01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:03,760 chimeras which meant they had developed 2132 01:33:07,430 --> 01:33:05,520 the precursors of organs including their 2133 01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:07,440 heart and liver they contain a small 2134 01:33:12,310 --> 01:33:09,600 amount of human cells around one in 10 2135 01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:12,320 000 of the hybrid cells were human this 2136 01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:15,199 is proof of concept no i don't this is 2137 01:33:19,430 --> 01:33:17,440 frankenstein i don't like this 2138 01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:19,440 i don't like this one well if it saves 2139 01:33:25,030 --> 01:33:22,480 lives i guess but it's still scary 2140 01:33:27,189 --> 01:33:25,040 yeah it is scary yeah what if they just 2141 01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:27,199 let something be half man half pig and 2142 01:33:31,110 --> 01:33:28,880 see what happens let it grow to full 2143 01:33:34,830 --> 01:33:31,120 maturity that's crazy you know i've i've 2144 01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:34,840 always been interested in the dna stuff 2145 01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:37,040 um smoke alarm battery out we keep 2146 01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:38,880 hearing it chirping i know 2147 01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:40,960 thank you i'm i'm reading something here 2148 01:33:46,790 --> 01:33:42,960 that's uh that's statin and i've i've 2149 01:33:49,750 --> 01:33:46,800 known this to be not me common 2150 01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:49,760 um 99.9 percent of the unheard of a 2151 01:33:54,310 --> 01:33:52,080 world where dna is common to all human 2152 01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:54,320 beings the remaining point zero one 2153 01:33:58,950 --> 01:33:56,960 percent is the differences between your 2154 01:34:01,270 --> 01:33:58,960 hair your eye your skin color height and 2155 01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:01,280 blah blah blah blah blah now that means 2156 01:34:04,870 --> 01:34:02,560 that 2157 01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:04,880 me you and everybody in this panel we're 2158 01:34:10,470 --> 01:34:07,440 really only just a slight difference in 2159 01:34:11,910 --> 01:34:10,480 dna what happens when you start 2160 01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:11,920 yeah but what happens when you start 2161 01:34:15,669 --> 01:34:13,520 throwing like ape stuff in there you 2162 01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:15,679 know and chimpanzee stuff it now we're 2163 01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:16,800 not going to be at the point zero one 2164 01:34:21,110 --> 01:34:18,400 percent we're going to be the point 2165 01:34:23,750 --> 01:34:21,120 three percent you know 2166 01:34:25,830 --> 01:34:23,760 what happens when you do that 2167 01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:25,840 well i think it's interesting that maybe 2168 01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:27,520 history repeats itself because 2169 01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:29,120 throughout history we have reports of 2170 01:34:33,430 --> 01:34:31,600 these chimeric creatures you know like a 2171 01:34:35,189 --> 01:34:33,440 man with the head of a dog in ancient 2172 01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:35,199 egypt and the man with the head of a 2173 01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:37,520 bird and ancient egypt and who knows 2174 01:34:41,910 --> 01:34:39,360 what people have already done and maybe 2175 01:34:44,229 --> 01:34:41,920 that knowledge got lost through history 2176 01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:44,239 and now we're rediscovering 2177 01:34:47,510 --> 01:34:45,440 that you can 2178 01:34:49,590 --> 01:34:47,520 you can cross species with enough 2179 01:34:51,109 --> 01:34:49,600 tinkering it's a little scary to me 2180 01:34:52,550 --> 01:34:51,119 though in a little frankenstein and i 2181 01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:52,560 worry about the repercussions and 2182 01:34:56,470 --> 01:34:53,840 consequences 2183 01:34:57,669 --> 01:34:56,480 and that morality and ethics of it but 2184 01:34:59,430 --> 01:34:57,679 that's only 2185 01:35:01,750 --> 01:34:59,440 it's only similar species though you 2186 01:35:03,590 --> 01:35:01,760 know humans with humans humans with pigs 2187 01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:03,600 pigs with humans uh 2188 01:35:09,030 --> 01:35:06,480 you know try or dogs with dogs or types 2189 01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:09,040 of dogs you know what i'm saying i i 2190 01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:11,440 don't like a wolf with a dog a coyote 2191 01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:12,719 right or 2192 01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:15,520 um 2193 01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:17,440 yeah and there are some people that are 2194 01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:19,840 like i guess because those exotics some 2195 01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:22,000 people keep half wolf half dog hybrids 2196 01:35:25,669 --> 01:35:23,199 as pets 2197 01:35:27,350 --> 01:35:25,679 but they don't make good pets for i know 2198 01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:27,360 somebody that had one they make terrible 2199 01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:28,480 pets 2200 01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:30,800 they behave more like wolves than dogs 2201 01:35:33,830 --> 01:35:32,159 you know 2202 01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:33,840 yeah i think probably the the dominant 2203 01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:35,440 side is the funeral side you know the 2204 01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:42,470 yeah but interesting this chubacabra 2205 01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:44,320 story how many of them 2206 01:35:48,310 --> 01:35:46,400 and uh in some of these cases the people 2207 01:35:50,149 --> 01:35:48,320 that got those bodies they swore they 2208 01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:50,159 were like i saw 2209 01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:51,040 um 2210 01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:52,159 you know 2211 01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:54,480 mangy coyotes before this is something 2212 01:35:59,109 --> 01:35:56,960 extraordinary but when we get the test 2213 01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:59,119 results we find out it's easy it's 2214 01:36:03,910 --> 01:36:01,040 easier to fool people than than you 2215 01:36:06,790 --> 01:36:03,920 think you take off the hair you you the 2216 01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:06,800 the skin becomes all brittle and nasty 2217 01:36:11,189 --> 01:36:09,280 from all the scratching and biting and 2218 01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:11,199 it turns leathery and it looks like 2219 01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:13,760 something uh something else 2220 01:36:18,229 --> 01:36:16,080 and convinces even people who have seen 2221 01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:18,239 coyotes before that this is something 2222 01:36:22,629 --> 01:36:21,040 more than a coyote or a dog 2223 01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:22,639 they were all sure that this was 2224 01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:24,800 something more than a coyote or a dog 2225 01:36:29,510 --> 01:36:27,280 most all of the chicago 2226 01:36:32,149 --> 01:36:29,520 chukacabra i can't even say it right 2227 01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:32,159 chickacober stories i've ever heard were 2228 01:36:38,070 --> 01:36:35,280 through our bell on coast to coast 2229 01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:38,080 a lot of them you know i mean at least 2230 01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:40,560 he gave the opportunity to say you know 2231 01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:42,800 what do you think i mean i think with 2232 01:36:47,030 --> 01:36:44,880 george nori it's like no no no this is 2233 01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:47,040 real this is real this is real and that 2234 01:36:51,109 --> 01:36:49,040 totally turned me away from them i mean 2235 01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:51,119 right around i i didn't even watch him 2236 01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:52,719 after that 2237 01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:54,800 yeah so that's all the chuka cobber 2238 01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:56,880 experience i really got i mean 2239 01:37:00,149 --> 01:36:58,560 other than like mythical creatures and 2240 01:37:02,070 --> 01:37:00,159 stuff you know my daughter's all into 2241 01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:02,080 that stuff she loves it because she she 2242 01:37:06,229 --> 01:37:04,080 writes stories you know she does art and 2243 01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:06,239 this and that and this is what she 2244 01:37:10,550 --> 01:37:08,719 enjoys you know so i learn a lot from 2245 01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:10,560 that side of it and 2246 01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:12,400 the thing is is i really fear that 2247 01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:15,040 somebody is going to actually try to to 2248 01:37:25,750 --> 01:37:17,440 to make a man a man peg i mean i know 2249 01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:27,030 seinfeld 2250 01:37:32,390 --> 01:37:29,520 kramer found a man pig in the hospital 2251 01:37:34,149 --> 01:37:32,400 and they even showed it it was so funny 2252 01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:34,159 i did i didn't watch much of the song 2253 01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:38,000 it's a big man that's a pink man 2254 01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:39,840 i love that but that's what i'm saying 2255 01:37:45,910 --> 01:37:43,760 though is running low here's the leg 2256 01:37:51,109 --> 01:37:45,920 somebody's gonna get crazy and we're 2257 01:37:56,229 --> 01:37:53,030 well it's interesting though because 2258 01:37:57,030 --> 01:37:56,239 this this sort of uh rush to 2259 01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:57,040 uh 2260 01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:59,520 you know science i i have zero 2261 01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:01,440 confidence that so many science guys are 2262 01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:02,639 going to stop 2263 01:38:06,709 --> 01:38:04,719 where where they should i think they're 2264 01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:06,719 going to go and do it just because they 2265 01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:07,600 can 2266 01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:11,760 doesn't mean you should do something 2267 01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:13,760 you know it's so many 2268 01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:27,270 if the government admits to the 2269 01:38:34,709 --> 01:38:31,840 chupacabra or the the yeti or sasquatch 2270 01:38:37,030 --> 01:38:34,719 or aliens anything like that 2271 01:38:38,709 --> 01:38:37,040 that's just gonna open the freaking door 2272 01:38:40,790 --> 01:38:38,719 and they won't have control over it and 2273 01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:40,800 it's the problem that's that's the thing 2274 01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:43,280 is they need control so they will 2275 01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:44,639 obviously 2276 01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:45,760 deny it 2277 01:38:49,189 --> 01:38:46,960 hide it 2278 01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:49,199 even that that is uh 2279 01:38:54,390 --> 01:38:51,440 what they call it the uh 2280 01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:54,400 that striped dog that was extinct it had 2281 01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:56,159 that really long snout 2282 01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:58,719 and it had stripes across its back as 2283 01:39:02,790 --> 01:39:00,639 tasmania 2284 01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,800 no which it really wasn't a dog which 2285 01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:04,320 was interesting i mean it was kind of 2286 01:39:07,510 --> 01:39:05,440 like a 2287 01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,520 dog but it was also uh 2288 01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:09,840 it had a pouch so it was a member of the 2289 01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:12,480 kangaroo family too right that's a weird 2290 01:39:16,470 --> 01:39:14,560 animal yeah yeah and it went so they're 2291 01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:16,480 saying they're saying that might not be 2292 01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:18,080 extinct anymore 2293 01:39:24,830 --> 01:39:21,990 there may have been a small survival 2294 01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:24,840 kind of creature small 2295 01:39:28,709 --> 01:39:27,600 surviving scariest crap though that long 2296 01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:28,719 snout 2297 01:39:31,270 --> 01:39:29,920 it's like cool 2298 01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:31,280 yeah it looks weird 2299 01:39:34,550 --> 01:39:32,639 skinny 2300 01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:34,560 you guys know about um 2301 01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:36,639 oh god what's that guy's name who put 2302 01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:38,800 that bigfoot documentary out on oh no it 2303 01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:40,719 was called the tasmanian it was called 2304 01:39:43,510 --> 01:39:42,400 the tasmanian tiger because of the 2305 01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:43,520 stripes 2306 01:39:48,790 --> 01:39:46,639 tasmanian devil is is alive and well 2307 01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:48,800 the tasmanian tiger apparently went 2308 01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:50,239 extinct but some people believe that 2309 01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:51,760 they're still out there 2310 01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:54,000 a small surviving population is still 2311 01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:55,440 out there because there are reports of 2312 01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:57,679 them from time to time and here we see 2313 01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:00,800 the tasmanian tiger 2314 01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:04,400 could that be a chupacabra kind of 2315 01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:07,199 splice maybe you know uh offspring yeah 2316 01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:09,520 we see that we see the graphic from our 2317 01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:11,679 thumbnail tonight included the stripes 2318 01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:13,840 on the tail which is interesting some 2319 01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:15,600 people report that from the chupacabra 2320 01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:17,280 so this could be related to the 2321 01:40:24,629 --> 01:40:19,679 chubacabra phenomenon who knows but an 2322 01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:26,790 it's a shame that they had the last one 2323 01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:29,199 in captivity and they studied it until 2324 01:40:32,709 --> 01:40:30,800 that one died 2325 01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:32,719 you know sometimes people should just 2326 01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:34,960 leave well enough alone with nature let 2327 01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:37,119 nature be nature and not leave alone not 2328 01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:39,040 mess with it but yeah here we have the 2329 01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:40,239 last one 2330 01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,679 yeah who knows 2331 01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:43,600 those those probably what i ate cane 2332 01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:47,669 you know what you never know those 2333 01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:49,520 things could have just 2334 01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:51,040 slurped them up 2335 01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,800 sure you know what i've seen something 2336 01:40:57,189 --> 01:40:54,880 recently was they said that new york 2337 01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:57,199 city had uh had a rat problem so what 2338 01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:59,760 did they do they bring in feral cats now 2339 01:41:03,109 --> 01:41:01,440 the problem is is there's too many 2340 01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:03,119 freaking cats 2341 01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:06,000 i mean this is what we get for trying to 2342 01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:08,320 you know control nature and stuff you 2343 01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:10,080 know and now there's too many cats so 2344 01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:11,760 now all of them need to be spaded and 2345 01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:13,840 neutered and this and that i mean you 2346 01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:15,360 you thought you were fixing a problem 2347 01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:17,360 but you're really creating one 2348 01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:19,760 yeah an invasive species brought in to 2349 01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:22,159 create to control another one is a huge 2350 01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:23,920 problem in australia and other places 2351 01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:25,520 that were isolated 2352 01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:27,119 from the rest of the world 2353 01:41:30,629 --> 01:41:28,560 so i'm going to put up my fair use 2354 01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:30,639 banner we're going to share that uh 2355 01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:32,239 that's something good to share actually 2356 01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:35,440 we have the last video of the last known 2357 01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:38,080 video of the last living 2358 01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:40,560 as far as we know the last living 2359 01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:44,400 tasmanian tiger and there's a uh 2360 01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:46,639 of course there's a video of it uh on 2361 01:41:51,350 --> 01:41:49,040 youtube so i'm gonna cite fair use we're 2362 01:41:52,149 --> 01:41:51,360 educating the public about chupacabra 2363 01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:52,159 and 2364 01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:54,159 other little-known animals that may be 2365 01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:56,239 related to the chupacabra phenomenon and 2366 01:42:01,510 --> 01:41:57,600 here we have 2367 01:42:04,070 --> 01:42:01,520 the last time tasmanian tiger 2368 01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:04,080 geez look look at the maw on that thing 2369 01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:10,070 and the stripes sigma 2370 01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:11,520 and it's interesting this animal is 2371 01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:12,880 interesting because it appears to be 2372 01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:15,360 cat-like and dog-like at the same time 2373 01:42:19,189 --> 01:42:17,520 you know 2374 01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:19,199 i can't remember i think it's related to 2375 01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:21,840 the fox the kangaroo the dog all kinds 2376 01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:27,030 yeah they can open it super wide too and 2377 01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:28,800 take big prey 2378 01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:30,880 wow 2379 01:42:33,030 --> 01:42:32,239 yeah i wouldn't want to get bit by that 2380 01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:33,040 thing 2381 01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:35,040 yeah it doesn't look like fun but it's 2382 01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:36,639 sad that humans hunted them to 2383 01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:38,480 extinction and then the last few of them 2384 01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:41,040 were in zoos being studied 2385 01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:44,080 as the species died i hope 2386 01:42:49,510 --> 01:42:46,639 you know there are there are plans and 2387 01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:49,520 thoughts that with samples 2388 01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:52,000 may be some of the damage that humans 2389 01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:52,800 did 2390 01:42:56,870 --> 01:42:54,880 hunting animals like this or the woolly 2391 01:42:59,430 --> 01:42:56,880 mammoth to extinction can be 2392 01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:59,440 repaired and we can bring those animals 2393 01:43:02,310 --> 01:43:00,400 back 2394 01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:02,320 look that up that's another whole crazy 2395 01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:04,320 rabbit hole they believe they really can 2396 01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:05,840 bring back the woolly mammoth or the 2397 01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:07,520 tasmanian tiger they got to take a 2398 01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:08,719 sample 2399 01:43:14,149 --> 01:43:12,000 of their dna and then they have to uh 2400 01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:14,159 i think china's right now 2401 01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:16,159 and and then they have to plant it in a 2402 01:43:21,910 --> 01:43:19,040 very close relative animal 2403 01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:21,920 uh fetus and it will develop into 2404 01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:23,920 whatever a woolly mammoth whatever the 2405 01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:26,800 the source or root cell is that they put 2406 01:43:32,070 --> 01:43:28,080 into the 2407 01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:32,080 guess and then it would grow 2408 01:43:35,669 --> 01:43:34,080 there are projects and plans to bring 2409 01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:35,679 back the woolly mammoth to talk about 2410 01:43:38,950 --> 01:43:37,920 jurassic park and frankenstein that's 2411 01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:38,960 crazy 2412 01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:42,470 i think they're doing that right now in 2413 01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:43,440 china 2414 01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:47,119 yeah yeah i heard of it not too long ago 2415 01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,199 what about that dinosaur embryo they 2416 01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:51,280 found recently is that was that a hoax 2417 01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:52,560 or is that real 2418 01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:54,239 it looks like a chicken 2419 01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:56,960 well see certain dna or types of dna 2420 01:44:00,550 --> 01:43:58,800 can't be used i mean you can identify 2421 01:44:01,910 --> 01:44:00,560 like like the stuff in the hair i can't 2422 01:44:04,550 --> 01:44:01,920 remember what it's called 2423 01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,560 it can only go so far you know you can't 2424 01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:06,480 make another creature just from the hair 2425 01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:08,800 from my understanding you know you need 2426 01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:10,800 a uh 2427 01:44:15,030 --> 01:44:12,480 different cells or different types of 2428 01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:15,040 dna to be able to do that successfully 2429 01:44:20,310 --> 01:44:17,280 anyways as far as i know 2430 01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:20,320 whole thing's crazy you know but i i 2431 01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,920 don't know 2432 01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:23,840 like in the case of the woolly mammoth 2433 01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:26,639 or the tasmanian tiger or the dodo bird 2434 01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:29,199 or any of these animals that we created 2435 01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:30,719 their extinction 2436 01:44:35,510 --> 01:44:32,400 i would think if we have the science to 2437 01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:35,520 bring them back a viable population and 2438 01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:37,600 repair that damage that we did to mother 2439 01:44:42,709 --> 01:44:40,400 earth that maybe we should do that but 2440 01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:42,719 it could bring all kinds of problems and 2441 01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:44,960 moral implications would it be repair 2442 01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:47,040 yeah like would it be repaired or would 2443 01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:50,480 it be more damaged like it's yeah 2444 01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,400 might be because they might be unable to 2445 01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:54,400 breed or you know 2446 01:44:58,229 --> 01:44:56,159 there's there's a lot of i've read a lot 2447 01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:58,239 of papers on this actually 2448 01:45:01,750 --> 01:45:00,080 uh which is interesting that they're 2449 01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:01,760 even considering it but it seems like 2450 01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:04,400 the sciences is in its infancy but it 2451 01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:06,800 might be possible soon to bring back 2452 01:45:11,910 --> 01:45:09,280 extinct animals that we caused but we 2453 01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:11,920 need good samples willie mammoth is a 2454 01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:13,920 good candidate because they keep digging 2455 01:45:18,709 --> 01:45:16,080 up whole bodies in the antarctic or in 2456 01:45:21,189 --> 01:45:18,719 the polar you know regions where it was 2457 01:45:23,030 --> 01:45:21,199 frozen 10 000 years 2458 01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:23,040 yeah i'm not sure that's a good idea to 2459 01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:24,800 do that [\h__\h] but would they would they 2460 01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:26,800 even be able to uh live in this 2461 01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:28,400 environment i mean it's much different 2462 01:45:32,149 --> 01:45:30,400 than it was way back then 2463 01:45:34,149 --> 01:45:32,159 you know their first meal would be 2464 01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:34,159 driving gravity 2465 01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:35,920 gravity i'm sure the first bunch they 2466 01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:37,840 made would be kept in zoos and stuff and 2467 01:45:40,229 --> 01:45:38,960 studied 2468 01:45:41,109 --> 01:45:40,239 especially because it might have been 2469 01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:41,119 different 2470 01:45:45,109 --> 01:45:42,719 yeah i know but what i'm saying is is 2471 01:45:48,149 --> 01:45:45,119 like you know maybe i mean there's new 2472 01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:48,159 viruses or sicknesses that weren't back 2473 01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:50,239 then i'm i am guessing that it's the 2474 01:45:54,310 --> 01:45:52,560 same for the animal family um or the 2475 01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:54,320 animal kingdom 2476 01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:56,239 what i'm saying is is what's to say that 2477 01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:57,679 they can even survive in this 2478 01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,840 environment being that it's so much 2479 01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:02,159 different i mean sure there's oxygen you 2480 01:46:06,629 --> 01:46:04,480 know and and they would survive just i 2481 01:46:08,470 --> 01:46:06,639 think they could survive just fine 2482 01:46:10,149 --> 01:46:08,480 it's not that different from 10 000 2483 01:46:12,790 --> 01:46:10,159 years ago the environment 2484 01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:12,800 but but like weaknesses to something you 2485 01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:13,920 know why 2486 01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:15,520 russia and [\h__\h] are 2487 01:46:19,350 --> 01:46:17,679 drilling in the antarctic getting core 2488 01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:19,360 samples they were like finding all this 2489 01:46:24,550 --> 01:46:21,840 bacteria and it's like yeah well what is 2490 01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:24,560 that that's a little dangerous yeah 2491 01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:27,520 12 times bubonic plague [\h__\h] [\h__\h] and 2492 01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,280 they just decided to unleash it by 2493 01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:31,360 accident like oh great thanks that was 2494 01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:34,080 yeah i got it somebody put there 2495 01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:38,149 they're gonna have to add that to the 2496 01:46:42,229 --> 01:46:40,080 rules for joining the panel check your 2497 01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:42,239 smoke detector batteries before you join 2498 01:46:46,229 --> 01:46:44,719 the panel and chirp it on it's not me 2499 01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:46,239 dude 2500 01:46:50,310 --> 01:46:47,760 i can tell you that 2501 01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:50,320 yeah i don't i don't have mine's wired 2502 01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:52,400 i'm gonna blame tim 2503 01:46:57,910 --> 01:46:55,600 he muted himself yeah it is him 2504 01:46:59,430 --> 01:46:57,920 yeah i think that's me yeah check well 2505 01:47:01,910 --> 01:46:59,440 you know what i'm gonna mail you a 2506 01:47:04,470 --> 01:47:01,920 9-volt battery i got this i got the same 2507 01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:04,480 problem here but luckily there's not one 2508 01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:06,960 there's none in my room and mine are all 2509 01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:09,520 wired together from inside the attic and 2510 01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:11,360 i got to figure it out because it's we 2511 01:47:15,350 --> 01:47:13,280 have a chirping one but it's chirping 2512 01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:15,360 low every once in a while it's driving 2513 01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:17,600 me nuts because i tried every one we put 2514 01:47:22,310 --> 01:47:19,920 batteries in everyone's filter 2515 01:47:24,149 --> 01:47:22,320 and they're all interconnected so i'm 2516 01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:24,159 getting so pissed off i'm about to go up 2517 01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:26,080 there with snip snip but i have kids and 2518 01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:28,639 my wife kill me if i do that so you know 2519 01:47:32,629 --> 01:47:30,320 i don't know if it's the proper way to 2520 01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:32,639 do it but when when mine does that the 2521 01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:34,159 only way that i can get it to stop 2522 01:47:38,310 --> 01:47:36,480 chirping is to press the 2523 01:47:40,070 --> 01:47:38,320 button after i change the battery 2524 01:47:41,990 --> 01:47:40,080 otherwise it'll keep chirping fresh 2525 01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:42,000 battery or not i mean i don't know if it 2526 01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:44,080 ever really fixes itself but that seems 2527 01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:46,000 to work that's crazy yeah that's what i 2528 01:47:56,550 --> 01:47:53,990 well i'm gonna i'm gonna put the uh 2529 01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:56,560 invitation for the live panel one more 2530 01:48:00,870 --> 01:47:58,000 time in the live chat otherwise we're 2531 01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:00,880 gonna wrap things up here soon 2532 01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:04,480 uh one second and again no nudity 2533 01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:07,440 funny that i have to say that 2534 01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:09,600 invite to join 2535 01:48:14,629 --> 01:48:10,800 the panel 2536 01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:14,639 i know you figured it's a comment please 2537 01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:16,320 youtube's a wild place yeah common 2538 01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:22,950 well you know so i'm sure somebody did 2539 01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:24,960 that to uh to another show host and i 2540 01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:26,639 thought it was funny but that's like the 2541 01:48:31,030 --> 01:48:29,280 problem for youtube like you know well 2542 01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:31,040 there was something that they were doing 2543 01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:33,119 with zoom they were like uh even though 2544 01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:34,960 you either blocked the person or kicked 2545 01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:36,480 them out they could come right back and 2546 01:48:41,109 --> 01:48:38,239 back and back and back 2547 01:48:43,350 --> 01:48:41,119 jump on video yeah 2548 01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:43,360 coming in with with their penis out 2549 01:48:47,590 --> 01:48:45,280 which is gross and then webcam right 2550 01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:47,600 over jeffrey john 2551 01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:49,840 jeffrey tubman from cnn 2552 01:48:59,590 --> 01:48:52,320 might have been him yeah 2553 01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:00,550 yeah 2554 01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:02,960 well i have kids plan b so i can't just 2555 01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:04,800 take batteries at or my wife gets pissed 2556 01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:06,800 off and upset because of course 2557 01:49:09,350 --> 01:49:07,840 yeah and 2558 01:49:12,830 --> 01:49:09,360 we want them to be protected in the 2559 01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:12,840 event of any weird [\h__\h] that's going on 2560 01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:15,520 yeah and here's an invite to join the 2561 01:49:21,830 --> 01:49:17,440 panel otherwise we'll be wrapping things 2562 01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:24,149 yeah uh big fat creep is reminding us 2563 01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:26,800 that dude ryan when he came out drunk as 2564 01:49:34,950 --> 01:49:32,470 yeah that was a wild show 2565 01:49:36,790 --> 01:49:34,960 he was drinking straight vodka before he 2566 01:49:38,790 --> 01:49:36,800 even got to the panel then he drank 2567 01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:38,800 straight vodka the whole way through the 2568 01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:39,840 show 2569 01:49:44,629 --> 01:49:42,480 that was not a good look for him dude he 2570 01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:44,639 went ahead and changed all his icon and 2571 01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:46,639 everything you know and and removed a 2572 01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:47,920 bunch of videos or something i don't 2573 01:49:51,750 --> 01:49:49,840 know last i checked it was totally 2574 01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:51,760 different he changed everything and i 2575 01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:53,760 was like you screw ball where's our 2576 01:49:58,310 --> 01:49:56,639 where's our promise you know yeah 2577 01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:58,320 blinking liar says if he can't take my 2578 01:50:03,910 --> 01:50:01,119 clothes off then forget it 2579 01:50:06,390 --> 01:50:03,920 he doesn't want to come here yeah 2580 01:50:07,910 --> 01:50:06,400 zero come get uh you ever talk to dodie 2581 01:50:09,589 --> 01:50:07,920 about coming on 2582 01:50:11,270 --> 01:50:09,599 uh yeah i interviewed him once 2583 01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:11,280 previously there's an interview on our 2584 01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:13,280 channel here from my show the midnight 2585 01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:15,520 hour he came on as a surprise guest just 2586 01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:17,440 recently and i've asked him to do a full 2587 01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:19,119 interview he said he will but he's very 2588 01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:21,360 busy so he's got to get back to me with 2589 01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,639 a date we're going to try to make it 2590 01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:25,040 happen we'll see what happens but uh i 2591 01:50:29,109 --> 01:50:27,360 gotta brace myself for that because 2592 01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:29,119 just as many people love that guy that 2593 01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:31,280 hate him so if i'm gonna host him here 2594 01:50:35,430 --> 01:50:33,280 i'm gonna get a hundred emails of people 2595 01:50:38,870 --> 01:50:35,440 pissed off why would you bring this guy 2596 01:50:40,390 --> 01:50:38,880 and this and that and you know it's 2597 01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:40,400 sometimes i 2598 01:50:44,629 --> 01:50:42,480 i don't really care to listen if 2599 01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:44,639 somebody is interested in controversial 2600 01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,560 character that i think people want to 2601 01:50:50,870 --> 01:50:48,400 hear from i want to interview them but 2602 01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:50,880 then sometimes it's just like is it 2603 01:50:56,149 --> 01:50:54,000 worth the hate mail 2604 01:50:58,070 --> 01:50:56,159 but i'm committed to do it so we'll 2605 01:51:00,070 --> 01:50:58,080 we'll take whatever slings and arrows we 2606 01:51:01,669 --> 01:51:00,080 have to i suppose but i definitely 2607 01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:01,679 disagree 2608 01:51:06,310 --> 01:51:03,040 with a lot of the things that he did i 2609 01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:06,320 mean he yeah literally drove a guy crazy 2610 01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:08,000 telling that he was seeing aliens and 2611 01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:09,520 getting messages from aliens and all 2612 01:51:12,470 --> 01:51:11,760 this [\h__\h] and the guy went crazy 2613 01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:12,480 so 2614 01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:13,199 yeah 2615 01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:16,159 right big problem but now lately he 2616 01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:17,840 seems to be 2617 01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:20,719 more accepted and and uh and even 2618 01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:23,440 celebrated in the ufo community which 2619 01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:25,760 is kind of strange to me that the ufo 2620 01:51:29,990 --> 01:51:27,679 community would celebrate a former 2621 01:51:31,510 --> 01:51:30,000 actual disinformation agent that drove a 2622 01:51:33,750 --> 01:51:31,520 man crazy 2623 01:51:35,270 --> 01:51:33,760 but along with that comes some other 2624 01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:35,280 information about duty that is 2625 01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:37,360 interesting like the fact that his 2626 01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:38,320 father 2627 01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:40,560 and his uncle and him have all been 2628 01:51:45,910 --> 01:51:42,480 involved in the united states government 2629 01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:45,920 with the ufo file and with ufo cases and 2630 01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:48,960 with ufo information so that's why 2631 01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:50,320 people want to hear from him and they're 2632 01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:52,480 almost willing to give him a pass 2633 01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:55,520 on his on his checkered past 2634 01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:58,960 [\h__\h] that that's a red flag for me 2635 01:52:02,790 --> 01:52:00,320 yeah 2636 01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:02,800 i would just like to ask him what what's 2637 01:52:10,470 --> 01:52:05,040 the fake [\h__\h] that's out there you know 2638 01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:12,709 oh i see like like like but then then 2639 01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:15,679 he'd be doing what uh what uh mr jimmy 2640 01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:17,360 church don't want happening 2641 01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:19,440 don't call him out don't don't go ahead 2642 01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:21,360 and call out these people because you 2643 01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:23,840 know that they faked it don't do that no 2644 01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:26,639 no you're ruining our community 2645 01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:28,000 you know that's 2646 01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:31,199 that's what you're gonna get from that 2647 01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:33,119 that's what i say anyways you know look 2648 01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:34,800 at look at jimmy church has got that 2649 01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:37,360 christina gomez there and stuff and i 2650 01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:38,960 guess 2651 01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:40,960 yeah i seen it earlier today and stuff 2652 01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:44,400 and the thing is is is she's so into 2653 01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:46,080 that and what what is she broadcasting 2654 01:52:49,830 --> 01:52:48,400 on the the radio too as well i mean i 2655 01:52:51,189 --> 01:52:49,840 think that look and she's getting her 2656 01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:51,199 foot into the 2657 01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:54,239 into the business you know with his help 2658 01:52:57,669 --> 01:52:55,360 but he's 2659 01:53:00,470 --> 01:52:57,679 more than happy to help i find a little 2660 01:53:02,229 --> 01:53:00,480 bit unusual really but 2661 01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:02,239 you know what is he doing what is he 2662 01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:04,000 getting out of it finger to get right in 2663 01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:05,760 there oh god 2664 01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:08,080 yeah please don't let's move on to 2665 01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,480 another topic that's not a topic i want 2666 01:53:15,910 --> 01:53:12,400 to cover here especially when i'm in the 2667 01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:15,920 midst of a legal situation with that guy 2668 01:53:19,750 --> 01:53:18,800 still okay that's my personal opinion 2669 01:53:21,669 --> 01:53:19,760 right 2670 01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:21,679 yeah that's enough of that because it 2671 01:53:25,910 --> 01:53:23,679 appears that that's his trigger so 2672 01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:25,920 thanks to everybody who just triggered 2673 01:53:31,589 --> 01:53:27,840 the guy who set legal threats against 2674 01:53:33,830 --> 01:53:31,599 our channel the last time you know 2675 01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:33,840 uh they're still open even though the 2676 01:53:38,950 --> 01:53:36,880 the timeline has uh 2677 01:53:41,189 --> 01:53:38,960 you know passed and that my videos are 2678 01:53:42,790 --> 01:53:41,199 supposed to be back up by now and my 2679 01:53:45,109 --> 01:53:42,800 copyright strike from him is supposed to 2680 01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:45,119 be taken down it's still up there's a 2681 01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:47,920 backlog i'm told with youtube might take 2682 01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:50,480 another few weeks so i'm trying to avoid 2683 01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:54,000 discussing him or his uh you know 2684 01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:57,280 whatever he's doing with that young girl 2685 01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:59,040 talk about how often does that happen 2686 01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:00,880 though you know somebody knows somebody 2687 01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:02,400 else knows somebody else knows somebody 2688 01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:03,760 else i mean they're all pulling strings 2689 01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:05,760 for each other that's how these other 2690 01:54:09,430 --> 01:54:07,520 people these people that come up out of 2691 01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:09,440 nowhere all of a sudden now they're a 2692 01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:11,280 big thing uh you know you know what i'm 2693 01:54:14,629 --> 01:54:12,880 saying how does how does a guy that used 2694 01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:14,639 to play guitar all of a sudden know 2695 01:54:18,229 --> 01:54:16,560 everything you need to know about ufos 2696 01:54:20,310 --> 01:54:18,239 yeah what the what the hell is going on 2697 01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:20,320 with this pulling strings oh well we 2698 01:54:24,070 --> 01:54:22,000 need a little help here we need a little 2699 01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:24,080 boost and that's that's what i see we 2700 01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:25,760 got new panel members 2701 01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:28,000 whether they're real true or not 2702 01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:30,000 rogue status is here to tell me how much 2703 01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:32,400 my show sucks it's [\h__\h] terrible i 2704 01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:34,400 just got here though 2705 01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:37,119 please watch the f-bombs sorry there 2706 01:54:41,750 --> 01:54:39,679 it's okay and prague magic is here to 2707 01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:41,760 tell me how much this show sucks tonight 2708 01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:44,320 right oh you know i never do that candy 2709 01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:45,920 come on 2710 01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:49,280 no no i just wanted to give some 2711 01:54:53,589 --> 01:54:51,360 anecdotes about 2712 01:54:55,589 --> 01:54:53,599 what i used to call as a little kid the 2713 01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:55,599 hoopa tuba 2714 01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,960 because i didn't know how to pronounce 2715 01:55:01,430 --> 01:54:58,320 it 2716 01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:01,440 growing up in new mexico and arizona as 2717 01:55:03,430 --> 01:55:02,320 a kid 2718 01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:03,440 our 2719 01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:05,440 family would give us these you know 2720 01:55:10,870 --> 01:55:08,480 cautionary tales a lot like la urona 2721 01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:10,880 which is you know the weeping woman 2722 01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:13,520 don't hang out in the arroyos 2723 01:55:18,149 --> 01:55:15,679 at night when the floods happen because 2724 01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:18,159 she'll come and take you as she's trying 2725 01:55:21,669 --> 01:55:19,040 to 2726 01:55:23,990 --> 01:55:21,679 you know replace her dead children 2727 01:55:25,189 --> 01:55:24,000 that you know stories to scare children 2728 01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:25,199 right yeah 2729 01:55:29,189 --> 01:55:27,520 yeah so chupacabra was one of those and 2730 01:55:32,149 --> 01:55:29,199 it was for 2731 01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:32,159 us not going to cow pastures and looking 2732 01:55:37,750 --> 01:55:34,800 for shrooms or cow typically 2733 01:55:43,589 --> 01:55:40,870 might get eaten by the people 2734 01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:43,599 or the pupatuba as i used to call it why 2735 01:55:49,750 --> 01:55:46,639 why is that area of the united states so 2736 01:55:52,550 --> 01:55:49,760 so caught up in this mythical stuff or 2737 01:55:55,750 --> 01:55:52,560 this you know ufo stuff i mean is it is 2738 01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,760 it directly because of area 51 you know 2739 01:55:58,390 --> 01:55:57,520 that that whole southwestern united 2740 01:56:00,950 --> 01:55:58,400 states 2741 01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:00,960 so many stories of 2742 01:56:05,990 --> 01:56:03,360 in conspiracies come out of that area 2743 01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:06,000 well we know that both area 51 and the 2744 01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:07,360 roswell 2745 01:56:10,870 --> 01:56:09,520 right you know incident happened in new 2746 01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:10,880 mexico or like 2747 01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:12,719 you know nevada and new mexico the 2748 01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:14,880 southwest but it is you know there's 2749 01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:18,000 that confluence of hispanic and native 2750 01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:19,280 american 2751 01:56:22,870 --> 01:56:21,520 lineage there and it's just powerful 2752 01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:22,880 with stories 2753 01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:25,280 and folktales and folklore it's really 2754 01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:26,880 quite beautiful 2755 01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,679 yeah so i see so the the indian culture 2756 01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:31,679 down there actually has uh quite an 2757 01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:34,400 influence on uh those type of stories 2758 01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:36,719 you're saying oh yeah so does mexico 2759 01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:37,840 make sense 2760 01:56:43,109 --> 01:56:40,880 yeah and then that whole that whole like 2761 01:56:44,709 --> 01:56:43,119 the desert itself is such an alluring 2762 01:56:46,709 --> 01:56:44,719 like magical 2763 01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:46,719 place you know what i mean it really is 2764 01:56:51,669 --> 01:56:49,199 it's it's in this weird liminal space 2765 01:56:53,990 --> 01:56:51,679 you know arid like 2766 01:56:55,589 --> 01:56:54,000 you know this kind of weird magical 2767 01:56:57,910 --> 01:56:55,599 limbo 2768 01:57:00,070 --> 01:56:57,920 okay how much of the area is actually 2769 01:57:02,149 --> 01:57:00,080 promoting that stuff and making money 2770 01:57:04,109 --> 01:57:02,159 off that type as well 2771 01:57:06,709 --> 01:57:04,119 i mean now i think you're like you're 2772 01:57:08,790 --> 01:57:06,719 broadcasting this idea that the entire 2773 01:57:12,229 --> 01:57:08,800 southwest is like this no i think it's 2774 01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:12,239 more to do roswell pretty much has made 2775 01:57:17,589 --> 01:57:14,639 their entire tourist destination around 2776 01:57:19,510 --> 01:57:17,599 the roswell's right 2777 01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:19,520 how much of the rest of it 2778 01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:21,599 how much is just like that the rest of 2779 01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:24,639 it the rest of it isn't like you know 2780 01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:26,480 b baker brought up 2781 01:57:30,229 --> 01:57:28,560 weekly world news 2782 01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:30,239 and like we used to laugh at that 2783 01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:32,400 magazine batboy 2784 01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:34,960 you know it's all fake actually i grew 2785 01:57:39,430 --> 01:57:37,119 up wanting to write for it because i 2786 01:57:41,750 --> 01:57:39,440 wanted to you know write this kind of 2787 01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:41,760 spin these yarns of fiction it's not 2788 01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:43,440 like people have more sense about it 2789 01:57:48,390 --> 01:57:45,440 they're just using stories and tales and 2790 01:57:51,109 --> 01:57:48,400 folk tales as cautionary tales to help 2791 01:57:53,830 --> 01:57:51,119 kids it's not unlike santa claus 2792 01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:53,840 right not unlike the easter bunny it's 2793 01:57:57,669 --> 01:57:55,920 it's just things to help 2794 01:57:59,109 --> 01:57:57,679 kind of deliver 2795 01:58:02,070 --> 01:57:59,119 a uh 2796 01:58:04,470 --> 01:58:02,080 uh a method or a message 2797 01:58:06,550 --> 01:58:04,480 about you know not doing dangerous 2798 01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:06,560 things 2799 01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:07,520 so 2800 01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:16,229 no 2801 01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:18,840 paradigm i think his name is that who it 2802 01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:25,030 ah you're yeah yeah your audio is a 2803 01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:26,800 little bit a little bit squirrely but i 2804 01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:28,480 can understand you 2805 01:58:33,510 --> 01:58:31,520 yeah sorry about that i'm like 2806 01:58:36,870 --> 01:58:33,520 i have cheap internet 2807 01:58:39,189 --> 01:58:36,880 really hard to hear what you're saying 2808 01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:39,199 sorry i feel like all yes and you're 2809 01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,360 eight seconds behind again he's coming 2810 01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:43,679 through loud and clear for most of us so 2811 01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:45,440 i feel like all regions or towns have 2812 01:58:50,229 --> 01:58:47,599 their like mythologies yeah it's just 2813 01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:50,239 miami absolutely and i think that could 2814 01:58:53,350 --> 01:58:52,159 be preserved excuse me for trusting i 2815 01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:53,360 didn't mean that 2816 01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:55,280 no yes but it like it should be 2817 01:58:59,750 --> 01:58:57,520 preserved it's it's wonderful beautiful 2818 01:59:02,470 --> 01:58:59,760 folktale folklore stuff and it's really 2819 01:59:04,390 --> 01:59:02,480 fascinating right right and it's 2820 01:59:05,669 --> 01:59:04,400 when you're getting into the co-signing 2821 01:59:07,990 --> 01:59:05,679 part that you mentioned when you're 2822 01:59:10,709 --> 01:59:08,000 getting it like the general populace 2823 01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:10,719 doesn't buy into it's that's not 2824 01:59:15,350 --> 01:59:12,800 that's not a thing you know even the 2825 01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:15,360 people that run the roswell museum 2826 01:59:20,709 --> 01:59:18,800 know that it's just a tourist estimator 2827 01:59:23,430 --> 01:59:20,719 right but then you get people online i 2828 01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:23,440 bought an alien autopsy 2829 01:59:28,149 --> 01:59:25,199 uh board game 2830 01:59:31,270 --> 01:59:28,159 when when i was like you know seven or 2831 01:59:33,030 --> 01:59:31,280 eight like it's a it's funny and goofy 2832 01:59:35,910 --> 01:59:33,040 and kitschy to them 2833 01:59:37,109 --> 01:59:35,920 just like any other touristy place 2834 01:59:39,350 --> 01:59:37,119 you know what i mean 2835 01:59:41,669 --> 01:59:39,360 yeah yeah yeah well see that's what i'm 2836 01:59:44,149 --> 01:59:41,679 saying though i mean doesn't this 2837 01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,159 supply people like greer and what and 2838 01:59:48,070 --> 01:59:46,480 maybe even wilcock with with little 2839 01:59:49,589 --> 01:59:48,080 stories and then they then they just 2840 01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:49,599 expand on that story and they make it 2841 01:59:57,189 --> 01:59:55,350 in the ass you know 2842 01:59:59,189 --> 01:59:57,199 itself is wrong i mean i think it's 2843 02:00:01,109 --> 01:59:59,199 beautiful if that's your history that's 2844 02:00:02,629 --> 02:00:01,119 your lore that you're you're you know 2845 02:00:04,070 --> 02:00:02,639 how you grew up that's fine that's 2846 02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:04,080 perfectly fine 2847 02:00:08,070 --> 02:00:06,320 yeah but i'm also you know i'm i'm 2848 02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:08,080 fascinated with the folklore i'm 2849 02:00:11,589 --> 02:00:09,760 fascinated with the folktale so i'm not 2850 02:00:13,109 --> 02:00:11,599 going around pedaling like it's 2851 02:00:15,189 --> 02:00:13,119 actually happening you know what i've 2852 02:00:17,750 --> 02:00:15,199 always liked [\h__\h] 2853 02:00:19,109 --> 02:00:17,760 would come up with some bull no matter 2854 02:00:20,790 --> 02:00:19,119 you know no matter where it came from 2855 02:00:22,070 --> 02:00:20,800 yeah you know what i mean you agree 2856 02:00:24,229 --> 02:00:22,080 there's any stories like that they would 2857 02:00:25,589 --> 02:00:24,239 come up and those those are it's still 2858 02:00:27,109 --> 02:00:25,599 funny because like when you think about 2859 02:00:29,350 --> 02:00:27,119 these communities 2860 02:00:30,550 --> 02:00:29,360 that have all of these this wonderful 2861 02:00:32,470 --> 02:00:30,560 folklore 2862 02:00:34,790 --> 02:00:32,480 career is not a part of it 2863 02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:34,800 like you know like uh 2864 02:00:41,350 --> 02:00:38,560 all of these uh darlatans are not 2865 02:00:42,709 --> 02:00:41,360 connected they go to sedona to try to 2866 02:00:44,870 --> 02:00:42,719 act connected 2867 02:00:47,350 --> 02:00:44,880 they're not connected 2868 02:00:49,990 --> 02:00:47,360 you know there are many middle-class 2869 02:00:52,870 --> 02:00:50,000 white people that are just yeah many of 2870 02:00:54,709 --> 02:00:52,880 the land they steal the native american 2871 02:00:57,350 --> 02:00:54,719 cultures i've heard so many white guys 2872 02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:57,360 talk about the hopi star people and 2873 02:01:02,070 --> 02:00:59,199 their legends and like why can't we hear 2874 02:01:03,589 --> 02:01:02,080 this from one event why and in some 2875 02:01:05,270 --> 02:01:03,599 cases we do 2876 02:01:07,830 --> 02:01:05,280 but largely 2877 02:01:10,390 --> 02:01:07,840 appropriate taking that and and running 2878 02:01:12,310 --> 02:01:10,400 with it and selling it are white old 2879 02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:12,320 white guys you know 2880 02:01:17,109 --> 02:01:14,880 is that insulting 2881 02:01:20,149 --> 02:01:17,119 you know it's that same kind of adage of 2882 02:01:23,189 --> 02:01:20,159 you know taking somebody else's thing 2883 02:01:25,270 --> 02:01:23,199 to make your green 2884 02:01:27,030 --> 02:01:25,280 see there's such a huge source of 2885 02:01:28,390 --> 02:01:27,040 information and this is what i'm saying 2886 02:01:30,629 --> 02:01:28,400 i mean granted look at they've built 2887 02:01:31,589 --> 02:01:30,639 their their history throughout the 2888 02:01:33,430 --> 02:01:31,599 history 2889 02:01:34,709 --> 02:01:33,440 or the time that they were there 2890 02:01:36,709 --> 02:01:34,719 that means that there's a lot of 2891 02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:36,719 information to grab through and i'm not 2892 02:01:40,550 --> 02:01:38,239 saying that it's wrong for them to do 2893 02:01:42,870 --> 02:01:40,560 that no i mean it's wrong for greer and 2894 02:01:45,589 --> 02:01:42,880 what to to in friends to do this kind of 2895 02:01:46,950 --> 02:01:45,599 thing i mean is that insulting to the to 2896 02:01:47,910 --> 02:01:46,960 the indian 2897 02:01:50,229 --> 02:01:47,920 folk 2898 02:01:51,270 --> 02:01:50,239 you know i mean it's i guess 2899 02:01:55,189 --> 02:01:51,280 it's 2900 02:01:57,990 --> 02:01:55,199 that's the thing this we can't over 2901 02:02:00,310 --> 02:01:58,000 generalize i understand that like 2902 02:02:04,229 --> 02:02:00,320 actually the navajo nation isn't really 2903 02:02:06,149 --> 02:02:04,239 keen on hollywood taking their mythology 2904 02:02:07,589 --> 02:02:06,159 and running with it without paying them 2905 02:02:10,149 --> 02:02:07,599 some tribute 2906 02:02:12,390 --> 02:02:10,159 in some way that's just common sense and 2907 02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:12,400 i'd imagine a lot that don't give a crap 2908 02:02:16,390 --> 02:02:14,159 about the ufo 2909 02:02:18,229 --> 02:02:16,400 community at all you know what i mean at 2910 02:02:20,550 --> 02:02:18,239 all yeah they have their own struggles 2911 02:02:22,550 --> 02:02:20,560 to deal with you know 2912 02:02:23,589 --> 02:02:22,560 yeah i mean my family ran a ribbon 2913 02:02:25,510 --> 02:02:23,599 business 2914 02:02:27,750 --> 02:02:25,520 and we you know 2915 02:02:30,629 --> 02:02:27,760 my the entire it was award ribbons and 2916 02:02:33,510 --> 02:02:30,639 stashes and some trophies and stuff and 2917 02:02:36,950 --> 02:02:33,520 our entire community was navajo 2918 02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:36,960 and you know they laughed because not 2919 02:02:41,830 --> 02:02:39,040 only were people 2920 02:02:43,270 --> 02:02:41,840 like making tons of money off of things 2921 02:02:45,030 --> 02:02:43,280 that they grew up that is from their 2922 02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:45,040 culture but also like getting it 2923 02:02:49,669 --> 02:02:47,040 completely wrong 2924 02:02:52,070 --> 02:02:49,679 yeah these are spoken things 2925 02:02:54,470 --> 02:02:52,080 aren't written down you know kids there 2926 02:02:56,790 --> 02:02:54,480 there are stores around my cabin that 2927 02:02:59,430 --> 02:02:56,800 sell so-called native goods and they're 2928 02:03:01,030 --> 02:02:59,440 all like made in china garbage rip off 2929 02:03:03,669 --> 02:03:01,040 knock off you know 2930 02:03:06,470 --> 02:03:03,679 like spears and bows and arrows and 2931 02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:06,480 arrowheads and they're all manufactured 2932 02:03:11,350 --> 02:03:08,880 manufactured in china but but the 2933 02:03:13,669 --> 02:03:11,360 tourists but the tourists buying them 2934 02:03:15,510 --> 02:03:13,679 so you know let's go to the native store 2935 02:03:21,430 --> 02:03:15,520 it's run by a white guy it's it's 2936 02:03:25,350 --> 02:03:23,350 every once in a while every once in a 2937 02:03:27,109 --> 02:03:25,360 while i'm digging around in the cabin 2938 02:03:29,910 --> 02:03:27,119 and i find some arrowheads and that 2939 02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:29,920 makes me happy because it really was uh 2940 02:03:32,790 --> 02:03:31,440 indian country there were yeah and 2941 02:03:35,589 --> 02:03:32,800 that's gorgeous 2942 02:03:37,510 --> 02:03:35,599 that's a cool thing those i take i take 2943 02:03:39,990 --> 02:03:37,520 out you know i take and i clean them and 2944 02:03:41,750 --> 02:03:40,000 i put them on a display because i think 2945 02:03:42,550 --> 02:03:41,760 it's funny like maybe hundreds of years 2946 02:03:43,990 --> 02:03:42,560 ago 2947 02:03:47,109 --> 02:03:44,000 some guy 2948 02:03:48,390 --> 02:03:47,119 made this arrowhead and and now it's 2949 02:03:51,589 --> 02:03:48,400 still here 2950 02:03:52,550 --> 02:03:51,599 it's like a time traveler 2951 02:03:55,830 --> 02:03:52,560 up that way 2952 02:03:57,109 --> 02:03:55,840 yes yes and a few other tribes 2953 02:03:59,030 --> 02:03:57,119 yeah 2954 02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:59,040 a few in that area 2955 02:04:03,589 --> 02:04:01,119 and then yeah you don't see many natives 2956 02:04:05,750 --> 02:04:03,599 there anymore it's it's it's really it's 2957 02:04:08,830 --> 02:04:05,760 really sad when it's in popular culture 2958 02:04:11,030 --> 02:04:08,840 and they're mixing like anasazi zuni and 2959 02:04:13,030 --> 02:04:11,040 navajo stuff 2960 02:04:14,950 --> 02:04:13,040 without you know the proper it's it's 2961 02:04:18,310 --> 02:04:14,960 the hollywoodification 2962 02:04:21,589 --> 02:04:18,320 of it right that's very frustrating 2963 02:04:24,310 --> 02:04:21,599 to them and well as but chupa this is 2964 02:04:26,470 --> 02:04:24,320 totally apart from chupacabra chupacabra 2965 02:04:28,149 --> 02:04:26,480 was you know as you said you know it 2966 02:04:30,870 --> 02:04:28,159 started in puerto rico it was really big 2967 02:04:32,709 --> 02:04:30,880 in texas new mexico neighbor texas 2968 02:04:35,189 --> 02:04:32,719 you know we had it was it was just a 2969 02:04:37,189 --> 02:04:35,199 cautionary tale same with la eurona that 2970 02:04:39,350 --> 02:04:37,199 was a mexican folk tale 2971 02:04:42,550 --> 02:04:39,360 you know so do you think that it 2972 02:04:44,390 --> 02:04:42,560 actually was transported via the culture 2973 02:04:45,990 --> 02:04:44,400 right so it starts in the south and it 2974 02:04:47,990 --> 02:04:46,000 finds its way up north you see what i'm 2975 02:04:50,229 --> 02:04:48,000 saying and it travels through from but 2976 02:04:52,229 --> 02:04:50,239 yeah again 2977 02:04:53,589 --> 02:04:52,239 i never knew anyone that reported it as 2978 02:04:55,589 --> 02:04:53,599 real it was always like a 2979 02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:55,599 tongue-in-cheek that's why i jokingly 2980 02:04:59,270 --> 02:04:57,760 smelled it 2981 02:05:03,109 --> 02:04:59,280 you know like 2982 02:05:08,310 --> 02:05:05,270 it was a running joke 2983 02:05:11,030 --> 02:05:08,320 but not a joke that was disrespectful 2984 02:05:12,870 --> 02:05:11,040 yes like the boogeyman yeah exactly or 2985 02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:12,880 like the jersey devil 2986 02:05:16,069 --> 02:05:14,320 you know 2987 02:05:18,310 --> 02:05:16,079 even though people purport that israel 2988 02:05:19,430 --> 02:05:18,320 i'm sure there's i will say though that 2989 02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:19,440 in in 2990 02:05:23,990 --> 02:05:21,280 my cabin there is a really good it's 2991 02:05:25,189 --> 02:05:24,000 it's pocono native american 2992 02:05:26,950 --> 02:05:25,199 museum 2993 02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:26,960 and and it's pretty good i mean they 2994 02:05:31,910 --> 02:05:29,840 have a lot of they have some uh displays 2995 02:05:34,629 --> 02:05:31,920 and they have a lot of artifacts so i 2996 02:05:36,629 --> 02:05:34,639 mean it's worth it's worth looking at 2997 02:05:38,950 --> 02:05:36,639 and that's more authentic 2998 02:05:40,709 --> 02:05:38,960 stuff that was either you recovered or 2999 02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:40,719 you know from history 3000 02:05:43,910 --> 02:05:42,400 that was actually made by native 3001 02:05:44,629 --> 02:05:43,920 americans 3002 02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:44,639 so 3003 02:05:49,270 --> 02:05:46,880 that i'm all for you know 3004 02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:49,280 sharing the history the history right 3005 02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:51,760 there the history of an area and and 3006 02:05:56,149 --> 02:05:54,159 this of course is the history of the 3007 02:05:58,229 --> 02:05:56,159 area my cabin is in 3008 02:06:00,229 --> 02:05:58,239 it's interesting to me so that's what i 3009 02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:00,239 mean respect has to be 3010 02:06:03,589 --> 02:06:02,480 you know the first incentive especially 3011 02:06:05,750 --> 02:06:03,599 when 3012 02:06:08,149 --> 02:06:05,760 you know utilizing any of these stories 3013 02:06:11,669 --> 02:06:08,159 for creative processes 3014 02:06:14,830 --> 02:06:11,679 like in you know small pressed or even 3015 02:06:18,310 --> 02:06:14,840 hollywood like the respect is still 3016 02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:18,320 deserved and they're just not getting it 3017 02:06:22,310 --> 02:06:19,599 you know 3018 02:06:23,830 --> 02:06:22,320 yeah but that's my two sense 3019 02:06:25,510 --> 02:06:23,840 yeah but i think you may be right in 3020 02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:25,520 that some some of these stories of the 3021 02:06:31,990 --> 02:06:28,480 chupacabra may have their original basis 3022 02:06:34,870 --> 02:06:32,000 in mythology of native peoples 3023 02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:34,880 and and they leaked over you know people 3024 02:06:38,149 --> 02:06:36,320 heard some of those stories and then 3025 02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:38,159 they start seeing these strange things 3026 02:06:42,830 --> 02:06:40,000 and they put two and two together you 3027 02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:42,840 know it's like the wendigo 3028 02:06:47,589 --> 02:06:44,880 yeah that's what i'm saying like like a 3029 02:06:50,470 --> 02:06:47,599 local culture and it just finds its way 3030 02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:50,480 north or or the thing is the wendigo is 3031 02:06:53,990 --> 02:06:51,760 you know it's like 3032 02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:54,000 native to the dakotas and all and all of 3033 02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:56,639 that but it it was part of the lore 3034 02:07:02,629 --> 02:07:00,400 it's the people using wendigo and films 3035 02:07:03,430 --> 02:07:02,639 and scary films and you know what i mean 3036 02:07:10,870 --> 02:07:03,440 like 3037 02:07:12,390 --> 02:07:10,880 it might might have been i don't know 3038 02:07:13,750 --> 02:07:12,400 but the way you're going about it is 3039 02:07:16,229 --> 02:07:13,760 acting like you're going to be the one 3040 02:07:17,990 --> 02:07:16,239 to unlock it rather than talking you 3041 02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:18,000 know to the elders 3042 02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:21,440 or the tribesmen whose actual 3043 02:07:28,229 --> 02:07:25,440 you know um folklore is bespoke 3044 02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:28,239 like it's crazy 3045 02:07:32,310 --> 02:07:30,560 you know being that i've been into rbg 3046 02:07:34,069 --> 02:07:32,320 since forever you know i mean i really 3047 02:07:36,550 --> 02:07:34,079 find interest in these things and 3048 02:07:38,709 --> 02:07:36,560 generally i think that something like 3049 02:07:41,109 --> 02:07:38,719 like the centaur has 3050 02:07:42,950 --> 02:07:41,119 you know remained relatively 3051 02:07:45,109 --> 02:07:42,960 similar as i as i knew it then but 3052 02:07:48,229 --> 02:07:45,119 there's other ones that change you know 3053 02:07:49,910 --> 02:07:48,239 as you presented earlier the uh 3054 02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:49,920 chukapaka 3055 02:07:55,669 --> 02:07:53,040 i can't say it has has slightly changed 3056 02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:55,679 a little bit over the time now if it was 3057 02:07:59,589 --> 02:07:57,760 real how much would it really change i 3058 02:08:01,990 --> 02:07:59,599 mean i was going to say that's a perfect 3059 02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:02,000 example of how regional it is that you 3060 02:08:09,510 --> 02:08:07,510 you know if it wasn't a part it wasn't a 3061 02:08:10,790 --> 02:08:09,520 part of your region oh yeah 3062 02:08:13,189 --> 02:08:10,800 part of your 3063 02:08:14,629 --> 02:08:13,199 spokedale that's super interesting but 3064 02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:14,639 but do you see what i'm saying i mean i 3065 02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:16,560 i really enjoy 3066 02:08:22,310 --> 02:08:19,360 the mythology in it but when they start 3067 02:08:24,470 --> 02:08:22,320 making it real and i'm like okay is 3068 02:08:26,149 --> 02:08:24,480 there really a such a thing as a centaur 3069 02:08:28,069 --> 02:08:26,159 in reality you know i don't know if 3070 02:08:31,109 --> 02:08:28,079 anybody's actually tried to produce that 3071 02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:31,119 reality you know like the great spider 3072 02:08:36,069 --> 02:08:32,239 web 3073 02:08:38,310 --> 02:08:36,079 the weave of the sky isn't as isn't you 3074 02:08:41,109 --> 02:08:38,320 know any crazier than 3075 02:08:42,149 --> 02:08:41,119 you know god rested on the seventh day 3076 02:08:46,310 --> 02:08:42,159 you know 3077 02:08:49,270 --> 02:08:46,320 theologically 3078 02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:49,280 uh sound for the people that are trying 3079 02:08:52,870 --> 02:08:50,560 to describe 3080 02:08:55,109 --> 02:08:52,880 major events and occurrences the 3081 02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:55,119 chupacabra on the other hand no i think 3082 02:08:58,790 --> 02:08:57,920 that's pretty like anglo-saxon doubt 3083 02:09:01,189 --> 02:08:58,800 yeah 3084 02:09:03,589 --> 02:09:01,199 right right it was representative of 3085 02:09:05,589 --> 02:09:03,599 something rather than an actuality and 3086 02:09:07,910 --> 02:09:05,599 that's what i get from like like they 3087 02:09:09,589 --> 02:09:07,920 all all the greek mythology 3088 02:09:11,189 --> 02:09:09,599 what i get from that is it's 3089 02:09:12,629 --> 02:09:11,199 representative 3090 02:09:14,709 --> 02:09:12,639 of multiple things you know the 3091 02:09:17,510 --> 02:09:14,719 creatures with multiple animals you know 3092 02:09:18,870 --> 02:09:17,520 and that's how i see it i mean but 3093 02:09:20,470 --> 02:09:18,880 you know if people try to make that a 3094 02:09:23,109 --> 02:09:20,480 reality and that's what scares me is 3095 02:09:25,589 --> 02:09:23,119 because with the crispr technology i 3096 02:09:27,669 --> 02:09:25,599 think it's possible to go ahead and 3097 02:09:29,669 --> 02:09:27,679 start mixing you know mixing stuff 3098 02:09:31,589 --> 02:09:29,679 together you got some scary technology 3099 02:09:33,430 --> 02:09:31,599 they're starting with they're starting 3100 02:09:36,629 --> 02:09:33,440 with things that seem very innocent like 3101 02:09:39,030 --> 02:09:36,639 do you want your child to have blue eyes 3102 02:09:40,950 --> 02:09:39,040 all over again do you want a child to 3103 02:09:42,790 --> 02:09:40,960 have blond hair we can do that for you 3104 02:09:44,790 --> 02:09:42,800 but who knows where that crispr 3105 02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:44,800 technology leads to because yeah they're 3106 02:09:48,550 --> 02:09:46,320 going to start they're going to start 3107 02:09:50,950 --> 02:09:48,560 identifying genes for supreme high 3108 02:09:53,350 --> 02:09:50,960 levels of intelligence and then 3109 02:09:55,030 --> 02:09:53,360 people can have a child with that gene 3110 02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:55,040 do you think david wilcock would invest 3111 02:10:05,510 --> 02:09:57,119 in something like that 3112 02:10:09,350 --> 02:10:06,550 i think 3113 02:10:12,069 --> 02:10:09,360 the hunt for something maybe 3114 02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:12,079 is is absolutely fine 3115 02:10:17,189 --> 02:10:14,560 but the bastardization of that thing and 3116 02:10:19,270 --> 02:10:17,199 making a profit of it uh regaling that 3117 02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:19,280 it's true when all of your evidence 3118 02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:21,040 points to the other way 3119 02:10:25,350 --> 02:10:22,880 is [\h__\h] excuse my life that's 3120 02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:25,360 problematic yeah 3121 02:10:30,709 --> 02:10:29,030 but i don't know 3122 02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:30,719 i'm struggling with that stuff myself 3123 02:10:35,030 --> 02:10:32,719 keith's like people people want a fairy 3124 02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:35,040 tale sometimes they don't really want 3125 02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:37,040 you know this big let down like i feel 3126 02:10:40,470 --> 02:10:38,639 like this chupacabra story was great 3127 02:10:42,950 --> 02:10:40,480 story but at the end you feel kind of 3128 02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:42,960 let down like oh man the dna came back 3129 02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:46,000 dogs and a coyote you know well i hope 3130 02:10:51,109 --> 02:10:48,960 for something more mysterious and more 3131 02:10:53,109 --> 02:10:51,119 esoteric and more 3132 02:10:55,589 --> 02:10:53,119 you know that's what i was 3133 02:10:57,910 --> 02:10:55,599 meaningful and this is a misidentified 3134 02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:57,920 dog of all things yeah that's what i was 3135 02:11:00,790 --> 02:10:59,040 saying 3136 02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:00,800 and i know there's a big you know 3137 02:11:05,510 --> 02:11:03,280 because of x-files there's this i want 3138 02:11:08,069 --> 02:11:05,520 to believe but i think that's like 3139 02:11:11,189 --> 02:11:08,079 a maxim that is actually hurtful 3140 02:11:12,870 --> 02:11:11,199 and exactly why we have people fudging 3141 02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:12,880 evidently 3142 02:11:16,149 --> 02:11:14,239 you know 3143 02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:16,159 or misinterpreting evidence look for 3144 02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:19,520 example the the hot on the moon you know 3145 02:11:23,830 --> 02:11:21,760 all the ufo people went crazy on that oh 3146 02:11:25,990 --> 02:11:23,840 man there's there really is buildings on 3147 02:11:27,910 --> 02:11:26,000 there only for the the rover to roll up 3148 02:11:29,109 --> 02:11:27,920 to it and say this really looks like a 3149 02:11:31,990 --> 02:11:29,119 rabbit 3150 02:11:33,750 --> 02:11:32,000 it's a rock but again by the time by the 3151 02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:33,760 time the evidence comes in the people 3152 02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:35,840 pushing the story that it was more than 3153 02:11:38,470 --> 02:11:36,880 a rock 3154 02:11:40,390 --> 02:11:38,480 are done making their money and they 3155 02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:40,400 scurry off to the next position i 3156 02:11:43,990 --> 02:11:41,920 haven't seen one of them put a 3157 02:11:47,189 --> 02:11:44,000 retraction on that and say oh well not 3158 02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:47,199 one no not one no here's a screwed up 3159 02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:48,960 thing and this is what i hate is that 3160 02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:52,239 people buy tickets to absolutists 3161 02:11:56,310 --> 02:11:54,239 they don't like the agnostics they don't 3162 02:11:57,750 --> 02:11:56,320 they don't buy tickets to people going i 3163 02:12:00,149 --> 02:11:57,760 don't know it's great fiction and 3164 02:12:02,629 --> 02:12:00,159 fiction could exist in another reality 3165 02:12:04,629 --> 02:12:02,639 so that's pretty cool like no tell me 3166 02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:04,639 it's real yeah 3167 02:12:06,790 --> 02:12:05,440 yeah 3168 02:12:08,790 --> 02:12:06,800 i never understood because they're going 3169 02:12:12,790 --> 02:12:08,800 to see people that are absolutists when 3170 02:12:13,830 --> 02:12:12,800 actually nobody has any goddamn clue 3171 02:12:16,870 --> 02:12:13,840 nobody 3172 02:12:18,830 --> 02:12:16,880 no good point yeah good good a good a 3173 02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:18,840 good rule of thumb that i have 3174 02:12:23,750 --> 02:12:21,360 followed and this this always works so 3175 02:12:25,189 --> 02:12:23,760 far for me is that as soon as i hear 3176 02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:25,199 somebody tell me that they know the 3177 02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:27,840 truth about ufos and aliens i've run the 3178 02:12:31,189 --> 02:12:30,320 other way 3179 02:12:33,589 --> 02:12:31,199 because 3180 02:12:35,189 --> 02:12:33,599 it's just a mystery and nobody knows 3181 02:12:37,430 --> 02:12:35,199 nobody has any idea i don't think the 3182 02:12:40,550 --> 02:12:37,440 government knows i don't think ufo 3183 02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:40,560 so-called ufo experts know i don't think 3184 02:12:45,510 --> 02:12:42,960 show hosts that are running shows solely 3185 02:12:47,669 --> 02:12:45,520 around that subject and topic no any 3186 02:12:50,629 --> 02:12:47,679 more than anybody else here's here's 3187 02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:50,639 what i find full of mirrors [\h__\h] show 3188 02:12:54,950 --> 02:12:53,040 circus it's a circus 3189 02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:54,960 i find that the the 3190 02:13:00,709 --> 02:12:57,520 the notion that they're so advanced to 3191 02:13:13,510 --> 02:13:00,719 be able to travel light years 3192 02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:15,109 themselves in the foot especially if the 3193 02:13:19,510 --> 02:13:16,960 theologians going the end of the world 3194 02:13:21,830 --> 02:13:19,520 is on this date don't pick a date 3195 02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:21,840 that's the first rule of a cult don't 3196 02:13:27,030 --> 02:13:24,960 pick a date yeah don't don't don't don't 3197 02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:27,040 don't pick a date because they're gonna 3198 02:13:30,390 --> 02:13:28,320 have to deliver 3199 02:13:32,149 --> 02:13:30,400 and we've seen all of these apocalypse 3200 02:13:34,390 --> 02:13:32,159 cults give dates and then they look like 3201 02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:34,400 idiots when it comes and goes sometimes 3202 02:13:38,229 --> 02:13:35,840 they'll issue a new date and some 3203 02:13:40,149 --> 02:13:38,239 excuses of why whatever they said it 3204 02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:40,159 didn't happen and you've seen this 3205 02:13:46,390 --> 02:13:42,239 angelique gave a date that's never 3206 02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:48,550 could you lead to eugenics uh aaron 3207 02:13:52,149 --> 02:13:50,000 flores from the facebook oh yeah 3208 02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:52,159 actually i did want to all right so 3209 02:13:54,629 --> 02:13:53,920 back to that the crisper stuff all right 3210 02:13:56,149 --> 02:13:54,639 so 3211 02:13:57,270 --> 02:13:56,159 we're talking about how 3212 02:13:59,589 --> 02:13:57,280 you'll be able to turn on things to make 3213 02:14:01,189 --> 02:13:59,599 people superior right so 3214 02:14:03,669 --> 02:14:01,199 think about the class system you already 3215 02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:03,679 have and for the most part rich people 3216 02:14:05,910 --> 02:14:04,960 and poor people aren't really that 3217 02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:05,920 different now when it comes to 3218 02:14:09,430 --> 02:14:07,360 intelligence and stuff like that right 3219 02:14:11,350 --> 02:14:09,440 not really 3220 02:14:13,830 --> 02:14:11,360 but think about who's gonna have access 3221 02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:13,840 to that crisper stuff not genetically i 3222 02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:15,520 should correct you not genetically but 3223 02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:16,719 they have 3224 02:14:20,870 --> 02:14:18,880 there's nature and nurture so their 3225 02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:20,880 nature we have the same potential but 3226 02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:23,360 they're nurture they have more money 3227 02:14:33,990 --> 02:14:32,870 now they could have a genetic advantage 3228 02:14:35,589 --> 02:14:34,000 over other 3229 02:14:40,229 --> 02:14:35,599 lowly 3230 02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:40,239 human 1.0 people that freaks me out yeah 3231 02:14:43,510 --> 02:14:41,520 and you're right the class system is 3232 02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:43,520 already so bad i've thought of that 3233 02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:45,280 before too i think that that's yeah 3234 02:14:50,229 --> 02:14:47,440 that's that's kind of scary because once 3235 02:14:52,069 --> 02:14:50,239 somebody has control over it or 3236 02:14:54,550 --> 02:14:52,079 it's like you're inferior because you 3237 02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:54,560 don't have crispr technology you know it 3238 02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:56,000 what what happens to the people that 3239 02:14:59,589 --> 02:14:57,920 don't get it you know 3240 02:15:01,910 --> 02:14:59,599 yeah or anything superior and the thing 3241 02:15:03,430 --> 02:15:01,920 and the thing that's scary is if anybody 3242 02:15:04,950 --> 02:15:03,440 doesn't think that a bunch of rich 3243 02:15:06,470 --> 02:15:04,960 wealthy people who get control of 3244 02:15:07,910 --> 02:15:06,480 technology like that 3245 02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:07,920 isn't going to use it to make their 3246 02:15:13,510 --> 02:15:10,880 offspring super intelligent first 3247 02:15:15,910 --> 02:15:13,520 stronger than regular man faster than a 3248 02:15:17,510 --> 02:15:15,920 regular man longer lifespan than a 3249 02:15:19,189 --> 02:15:17,520 regular man of course they're going to 3250 02:15:21,510 --> 02:15:19,199 use that for their offspring and so 3251 02:15:23,910 --> 02:15:21,520 would i if i had it maybe i don't know 3252 02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:26,310 moral quandary though for sure 3253 02:15:30,310 --> 02:15:28,639 unfortunately with nepotism and the 3254 02:15:31,990 --> 02:15:30,320 hierarchies as they are now that's 3255 02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:32,000 already happened 3256 02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:33,199 sure 3257 02:15:36,950 --> 02:15:35,440 yeah to some extent i think yeah yeah i 3258 02:15:38,950 --> 02:15:36,960 think that that's it once we start 3259 02:15:40,550 --> 02:15:38,960 flipping jeans on and off oh my god that 3260 02:15:42,870 --> 02:15:40,560 was gonna be crazy and then you know 3261 02:15:44,149 --> 02:15:42,880 everybody in the 3262 02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:44,159 everybody 3263 02:15:49,189 --> 02:15:47,520 let's say the top one percent of the 3264 02:15:50,950 --> 02:15:49,199 world is all related 3265 02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:50,960 you know or they all connected in one 3266 02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:53,440 way or another you see what i'm saying 3267 02:15:58,229 --> 02:15:54,239 yeah 3268 02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:58,239 arguments go to 3269 02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:00,400 elon musk's neural link technology 3270 02:16:05,189 --> 02:16:02,800 because some people that are rich and 3271 02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:05,199 powerful may get a better one or a more 3272 02:16:09,350 --> 02:16:07,119 advanced one or a more capable one and 3273 02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:09,360 they will get new capabilities that us 3274 02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:11,920 poor people can't get or you know 3275 02:16:15,669 --> 02:16:13,760 there's a whole quandary this whole 3276 02:16:17,669 --> 02:16:15,679 thing leads into this all of this is 3277 02:16:20,470 --> 02:16:17,679 transhumanism which is something i've 3278 02:16:22,310 --> 02:16:20,480 been watching at all times 3279 02:16:24,629 --> 02:16:22,320 it always real bad when the when the 3280 02:16:27,990 --> 02:16:24,639 playing field isn't level for everybody 3281 02:16:31,669 --> 02:16:30,950 i'm actually uh in close to my father 3282 02:16:33,669 --> 02:16:31,679 who 3283 02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:33,679 he's a he's a major transhumanist 3284 02:16:36,950 --> 02:16:34,800 actually 3285 02:16:39,110 --> 02:16:36,960 um but his whole thing isn't uh the 3286 02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:39,120 longevity of life he doesn't want his 3287 02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:40,719 consciousness 3288 02:16:44,230 --> 02:16:42,719 to plant it in something to live forever 3289 02:16:46,150 --> 02:16:44,240 he's more about 3290 02:16:47,830 --> 02:16:46,160 you know that uh what do you call it the 3291 02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:47,840 um 3292 02:16:53,429 --> 02:16:51,120 the non-synchronicity the uh 3293 02:16:55,429 --> 02:16:53,439 you know the spark where everything 3294 02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:55,439 works 3295 02:16:59,110 --> 02:16:57,439 singularity thank you 3296 02:17:02,469 --> 02:16:59,120 yeah 3297 02:17:05,270 --> 02:17:02,479 you know we we have 3298 02:17:06,230 --> 02:17:05,280 we have deep discussions about it um 3299 02:17:11,190 --> 02:17:06,240 i'm 3300 02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:11,200 elongate his life and that sounds kind 3301 02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:13,040 of dark when i put it that way but i 3302 02:17:17,509 --> 02:17:16,000 mean within transhumanism you know 3303 02:17:20,389 --> 02:17:17,519 i think 3304 02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:20,399 reaching this uh singularity is that's 3305 02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:23,120 going to have a whole other scare of 3306 02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:24,240 issues 3307 02:17:29,910 --> 02:17:27,040 but i get i get to a degree why people 3308 02:17:30,950 --> 02:17:29,920 are into it me i just want to be 3309 02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:30,960 in 3310 02:17:35,429 --> 02:17:33,760 nature like i just i want to do less 3311 02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:35,439 with technology 3312 02:17:40,950 --> 02:17:38,000 yeah i i go back and forth keith you 3313 02:17:42,790 --> 02:17:40,960 know i'm a computer science guy so what 3314 02:17:44,709 --> 02:17:42,800 i love i love banging around in the 3315 02:17:46,150 --> 02:17:44,719 woods close to nature and the animals 3316 02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:46,160 and fishing 3317 02:17:50,469 --> 02:17:48,800 and hiking and and being in there in the 3318 02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:50,479 forest especially when there's like a 3319 02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:52,719 thunderstorm feeling so close to nature 3320 02:17:57,030 --> 02:17:54,960 it's beautiful and i worry about all of 3321 02:17:59,429 --> 02:17:57,040 these things like how much time my 3322 02:18:01,910 --> 02:17:59,439 children spend on a tablet or a screen 3323 02:18:03,750 --> 02:18:01,920 or yeah and now we're gonna they're 3324 02:18:05,270 --> 02:18:03,760 gonna push them into the metaverse and 3325 02:18:08,469 --> 02:18:05,280 then we're gonna give them a neural link 3326 02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:08,479 chip you know like it's going further 3327 02:18:12,230 --> 02:18:10,319 and further away maybe that's what that 3328 02:18:13,589 --> 02:18:12,240 was the metaverse was meant for them not 3329 02:18:14,950 --> 02:18:13,599 for us 3330 02:18:16,870 --> 02:18:14,960 maybe yeah 3331 02:18:19,429 --> 02:18:16,880 i don't know maybe my kids will let me 3332 02:18:21,509 --> 02:18:19,439 visit them in there though 3333 02:18:23,429 --> 02:18:21,519 you know i hope for little things that 3334 02:18:25,830 --> 02:18:23,439 makes me think like will my kid have a 3335 02:18:27,270 --> 02:18:25,840 leg up if i keep him off of that as much 3336 02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:27,280 as i can but as long as he knows how to 3337 02:18:31,589 --> 02:18:30,160 use it or yeah i get him send him in 3338 02:18:38,709 --> 02:18:31,599 there so he can compete with everybody 3339 02:18:42,150 --> 02:18:40,150 like how long 3340 02:18:43,830 --> 02:18:42,160 what what do you do about all this with 3341 02:18:46,629 --> 02:18:43,840 your children i try to make them 3342 02:18:48,230 --> 02:18:46,639 balanced like one big thing 3343 02:18:50,469 --> 02:18:48,240 my kids were for a while my 3344 02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:50,479 five-year-old would be on a phone and 3345 02:18:54,790 --> 02:18:52,800 watching television at the same time 3346 02:18:57,349 --> 02:18:54,800 and i had to stop that i'm like whoa one 3347 02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:57,359 screen at a time bro this is a dd in a 3348 02:19:01,509 --> 02:18:59,599 bottle right here so we did that and 3349 02:19:02,950 --> 02:19:01,519 then we try to limit them and also try 3350 02:19:06,230 --> 02:19:02,960 to encourage them like get off of 3351 02:19:08,230 --> 02:19:06,240 youtube watch a movie watch a movie on 3352 02:19:09,830 --> 02:19:08,240 netflix and even that's a compromise 3353 02:19:12,230 --> 02:19:09,840 yeah build something well it was 10 3354 02:19:13,509 --> 02:19:12,240 degrees outside so yeah 3355 02:19:16,549 --> 02:19:13,519 you know what i mean 3356 02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:16,559 yeah i agree b baker i have to tell you 3357 02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:17,439 um 3358 02:19:21,270 --> 02:19:19,120 though from my experience you know me 3359 02:19:23,509 --> 02:19:21,280 and my father deeply disagree about this 3360 02:19:24,549 --> 02:19:23,519 but he's been 3361 02:19:27,110 --> 02:19:24,559 you know 3362 02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:27,120 in the metaphysics game for so long i 3363 02:19:30,709 --> 02:19:29,200 mean i bounced on timothy leary's knee 3364 02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:30,719 when i was a kid 3365 02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:32,719 you know he was part of the 3366 02:19:36,629 --> 02:19:35,439 marilyn ferguson compound of 3367 02:19:37,589 --> 02:19:36,639 you know the 3368 02:19:39,910 --> 02:19:37,599 um 3369 02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:39,920 brain mind bulletin and 3370 02:19:43,830 --> 02:19:41,920 you know what i mean like it's it's been 3371 02:19:46,389 --> 02:19:43,840 nebulous to me but this is this new 3372 02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:46,399 fascination and we just yeah we deeply 3373 02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:48,080 disagree about it i'm like if you're 3374 02:19:52,309 --> 02:19:50,240 wanting singularity how are you not 3375 02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:52,319 trying to elongate your life 3376 02:19:56,469 --> 02:19:54,240 and that that creeps me out it just 3377 02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:56,479 generally shudders 3378 02:20:04,389 --> 02:19:58,960 oh yeah is it really almost 1 30 a.m oh 3379 02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:07,429 yeah we uh started way late tonight so 3380 02:20:12,469 --> 02:20:09,760 we're running burning the midnight hour 3381 02:20:13,670 --> 02:20:12,479 so i threw uh rogue status out of here 3382 02:20:17,110 --> 02:20:13,680 thanks for coming here and tell me how 3383 02:20:19,670 --> 02:20:17,120 much my show sucks as usual 3384 02:20:21,910 --> 02:20:19,680 he's a philly boy so uh yeah he does 3385 02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:21,920 that but but do you think that the 3386 02:20:27,349 --> 02:20:23,680 do you think that the metaverse is a 3387 02:20:28,469 --> 02:20:27,359 link to transhumanism or or or an 3388 02:20:33,190 --> 02:20:28,479 attempt to 3389 02:20:35,590 --> 02:20:33,200 of the real world and force us to live 3390 02:20:39,270 --> 02:20:35,600 in a shiny prison that's made of digital 3391 02:20:40,870 --> 02:20:39,280 stuff that's what i think so far 3392 02:20:43,429 --> 02:20:40,880 i mean we could see the beginnings of 3393 02:20:45,429 --> 02:20:43,439 this is like some people prefer to live 3394 02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:45,439 in an artificial world how many of us 3395 02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:47,600 know guys that will spend 10 or 12 hours 3396 02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:50,880 a day playing call of duty or whatever 3397 02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:53,200 world they prefer some people play eve 3398 02:20:57,429 --> 02:20:55,040 online some people play 3399 02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:57,439 and they spend all their time and energy 3400 02:21:01,030 --> 02:20:59,280 and passion and 3401 02:21:02,950 --> 02:21:01,040 in that artificial world so the 3402 02:21:04,630 --> 02:21:02,960 metaverse has already been here they're 3403 02:21:06,550 --> 02:21:04,640 just rebranding it and now they're going 3404 02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:06,560 to try to make it more 3405 02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:08,640 for businesses too they're trying to get 3406 02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:10,319 more people in it 3407 02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:12,399 they're trying to fill the manufacturers 3408 02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,600 with consciousness 3409 02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:15,600 in candy and i'm going back to small 3410 02:21:20,790 --> 02:21:18,399 press and i'm browsing land watch every 3411 02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:20,800 day i'm going to have 3412 02:21:27,830 --> 02:21:25,670 is going to build a cabin yeah i'm gonna 3413 02:21:29,510 --> 02:21:27,840 build a cabin yeah it's just it's just 3414 02:21:32,230 --> 02:21:29,520 yeah that i'm just not meant to play 3415 02:21:34,150 --> 02:21:32,240 this game and this game i see no end to 3416 02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:34,160 and the only end i see 3417 02:21:38,389 --> 02:21:37,120 is ruin for me if i was to play that 3418 02:21:40,550 --> 02:21:38,399 game 3419 02:21:42,950 --> 02:21:40,560 you know i think the the uh 3420 02:21:45,190 --> 02:21:42,960 i'm on the fence i i'm very concerned 3421 02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:45,200 about all this but i'm also 3422 02:21:48,309 --> 02:21:47,280 hopeful that maybe you know a human 3423 02:21:50,389 --> 02:21:48,319 spirit 3424 02:21:51,990 --> 02:21:50,399 will prevail and and it will be a 3425 02:21:54,230 --> 02:21:52,000 positive change 3426 02:21:55,670 --> 02:21:54,240 and people won't forget about this world 3427 02:21:56,790 --> 02:21:55,680 before they're 3428 02:21:58,710 --> 02:21:56,800 you know 3429 02:22:00,309 --> 02:21:58,720 incredibly anxious to just jump into a 3430 02:22:02,630 --> 02:22:00,319 new fake one 3431 02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:02,640 you know 3432 02:22:08,710 --> 02:22:06,880 is really interesting to me i mean i 3433 02:22:12,070 --> 02:22:08,720 think i mean would we have would we have 3434 02:22:14,710 --> 02:22:12,080 to use it at some point maybe do we know 3435 02:22:16,469 --> 02:22:14,720 no i don't think so but if you think of 3436 02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:16,479 it i mean not only are we helping nature 3437 02:22:19,429 --> 02:22:18,640 we're helping ourselves because you know 3438 02:22:23,590 --> 02:22:19,439 we're 3439 02:22:26,469 --> 02:22:23,600 woman with you know you build ingenuity 3440 02:22:28,550 --> 02:22:26,479 you learn to go ahead and build 3441 02:22:31,030 --> 02:22:28,560 you know it's like crypto the crypto 3442 02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:31,040 mines and all that like or 3443 02:22:35,429 --> 02:22:32,800 i i don't want to get all too in the 3444 02:22:38,790 --> 02:22:35,439 weeds with like uh 3445 02:22:41,110 --> 02:22:38,800 aspect yeah stuff is bad for the 3446 02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:41,120 environment that's horrible horrible for 3447 02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:42,560 the environment so aren't these electric 3448 02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:45,439 cars which they seem to like to push as 3449 02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:47,040 yeah but everybody forgets that the 3450 02:22:51,110 --> 02:22:49,200 electricity for those electric cars all 3451 02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:51,120 comes from coal powered plants or most 3452 02:22:54,550 --> 02:22:53,040 of it the majority the majority of it 3453 02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:54,560 comes from coal power plants so it's 3454 02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:55,920 terrible for the environment you're not 3455 02:22:59,910 --> 02:22:57,520 helping the environment buying an 3456 02:23:02,389 --> 02:22:59,920 electric car unless you build your own 3457 02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:02,399 solar charger and charge it from solar 3458 02:23:06,309 --> 02:23:04,960 and nobody 3459 02:23:07,990 --> 02:23:06,319 i know a bunch of different people that 3460 02:23:10,309 --> 02:23:08,000 have a tesla i don't know one person 3461 02:23:12,469 --> 02:23:10,319 that's solar charging it themselves i 3462 02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:12,479 watch programs like that walking it in 3463 02:23:15,110 --> 02:23:13,200 and 3464 02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:15,120 it was something on the measure of 3465 02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:16,800 something on the measure of days to go 3466 02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:18,960 200 kilometers you know to charge with 3467 02:23:22,389 --> 02:23:20,240 solar 3468 02:23:24,230 --> 02:23:22,399 you tried 200 clouds 3469 02:23:26,710 --> 02:23:24,240 it depends on this yeah 3470 02:23:28,150 --> 02:23:26,720 that would charge it faster i'm sure but 3471 02:23:30,389 --> 02:23:28,160 the faster it charges it the more 3472 02:23:31,429 --> 02:23:30,399 expensive the system to do it yeah so 3473 02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:31,439 people 3474 02:23:35,590 --> 02:23:33,280 cheap out and they do the two-day slow 3475 02:23:38,469 --> 02:23:35,600 charge i guess yeah i'm totally on to 3476 02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:38,479 the solar and water power if i mean 3477 02:23:43,990 --> 02:23:41,439 water power is huge i mean we get a lot 3478 02:23:46,230 --> 02:23:44,000 a lot of electricity out of just the 3479 02:23:48,550 --> 02:23:46,240 water itself granted the structure is 3480 02:23:51,670 --> 02:23:48,560 you know incredibly expensive to to 3481 02:23:53,670 --> 02:23:51,680 build you know solar is a lot cheaper 3482 02:23:55,750 --> 02:23:53,680 but well it kind of does pollute the 3483 02:23:57,830 --> 02:23:55,760 environment as well too because of in 3484 02:23:59,030 --> 02:23:57,840 the process of making it it pollutes the 3485 02:24:00,230 --> 02:23:59,040 environment so 3486 02:24:01,429 --> 02:24:00,240 you know we gotta have a trade-off 3487 02:24:02,230 --> 02:24:01,439 somewhere 3488 02:24:05,030 --> 02:24:02,240 sure 3489 02:24:07,349 --> 02:24:05,040 well it's getting late friends 3490 02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:07,359 1 30 a.m i'm throwing you clowns out of 3491 02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:21,349 all right friends 3492 02:24:21,359 --> 02:24:32,389 so we made it through 3493 02:24:32,399 --> 02:24:35,750 yes friends we made it through 3494 02:24:41,670 --> 02:24:37,510 another 3495 02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:44,950 into these strange and esoteric things 3496 02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:47,920 and i'm glad for the journey 3497 02:24:53,190 --> 02:24:51,280 and i sure hope that you are too 3498 02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:53,200 you know we're going to be adventuring 3499 02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:56,800 off into strange realms here and some of 3500 02:25:02,230 --> 02:24:59,520 you uh 3501 02:25:03,590 --> 02:25:02,240 i'm hoping most of you will come along 3502 02:25:06,790 --> 02:25:03,600 for that 3503 02:25:13,670 --> 02:25:08,389 still others 3504 02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:16,389 i'm going to see how far into the weeds 3505 02:25:19,349 --> 02:25:18,000 we may get 3506 02:25:20,790 --> 02:25:19,359 but we're definitely going to be 3507 02:25:22,070 --> 02:25:20,800 expanding 3508 02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:22,080 and covering 3509 02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:25,280 other topics 3510 02:25:29,990 --> 02:25:28,160 i stand by my belief that 3511 02:25:32,070 --> 02:25:30,000 if we're going to cover a subculture of 3512 02:25:33,670 --> 02:25:32,080 a subculture we're going to have a very 3513 02:25:35,670 --> 02:25:33,680 small tent 3514 02:25:37,750 --> 02:25:35,680 and in the short term 3515 02:25:38,870 --> 02:25:37,760 uh venturing off into the weeds may 3516 02:25:40,630 --> 02:25:38,880 affect us 3517 02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:40,640 but 3518 02:25:44,710 --> 02:25:42,960 i thought a lot about it 3519 02:25:46,630 --> 02:25:44,720 and i'm good with that 3520 02:25:49,429 --> 02:25:46,640 and we'll see 3521 02:25:51,270 --> 02:25:49,439 where this journey takes us 3522 02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:51,280 might be a quick detour 3523 02:25:55,429 --> 02:25:53,680 and we'll be right back to uh 3524 02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:55,439 sort of i guess the 3525 02:25:58,950 --> 02:25:56,800 what i should 3526 02:26:00,950 --> 02:25:58,960 or would like to call the old way of 3527 02:26:03,670 --> 02:26:00,960 doing things 3528 02:26:05,349 --> 02:26:03,680 the truth is uh 3529 02:26:08,630 --> 02:26:05,359 we're flying by the seat of our pants 3530 02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:08,640 here and and i i never quite know 3531 02:26:11,510 --> 02:26:09,760 where 3532 02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:11,520 we're gonna end up 3533 02:26:15,670 --> 02:26:12,640 um 3534 02:26:17,990 --> 02:26:15,680 i've got more interesting 3535 02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:18,000 journeys 3536 02:26:21,349 --> 02:26:19,520 ahead 3537 02:26:23,110 --> 02:26:21,359 and planned 3538 02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:23,120 some of them require some more work to 3539 02:26:31,750 --> 02:26:26,479 get ready to produce to present to you 3540 02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:33,590 some of them are ready to go 3541 02:26:37,429 --> 02:26:35,200 and i just gotta pull the trigger on 3542 02:26:40,389 --> 02:26:37,439 them and we'll see where those journeys 3543 02:26:45,910 --> 02:26:42,550 the wiser man than me once said that the 3544 02:26:47,270 --> 02:26:45,920 journey is its own reward 3545 02:26:49,110 --> 02:26:47,280 and i 3546 02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:49,120 can't tell you how much i've enjoyed 3547 02:26:54,309 --> 02:26:51,680 this whole journey of uh 3548 02:26:56,469 --> 02:26:54,319 being the host and doing this show 3549 02:26:59,030 --> 02:26:56,479 it's given me uh 3550 02:27:00,870 --> 02:26:59,040 a great deal of satisfaction looking at 3551 02:27:03,349 --> 02:27:00,880 the show grow and 3552 02:27:05,429 --> 02:27:03,359 um you know 3553 02:27:07,750 --> 02:27:05,439 another wiser man than me once said just 3554 02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:07,760 plant the seed 3555 02:27:11,270 --> 02:27:09,280 and 3556 02:27:14,230 --> 02:27:11,280 begin your garden 3557 02:27:16,630 --> 02:27:14,240 go to that garden every day 3558 02:27:19,110 --> 02:27:16,640 and water that garden and if you plant 3559 02:27:21,349 --> 02:27:19,120 the seed and you go to that garden every 3560 02:27:22,790 --> 02:27:21,359 day and water that garden 3561 02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:22,800 surely 3562 02:27:28,630 --> 02:27:26,080 that garden will grow 3563 02:27:31,910 --> 02:27:28,640 that's what we've done here 3564 02:27:33,670 --> 02:27:31,920 a few years ago i planted a seed 3565 02:27:37,990 --> 02:27:33,680 and every chance i could i came here and 3566 02:27:40,790 --> 02:27:39,510 and surely 3567 02:27:44,070 --> 02:27:40,800 this garden 3568 02:27:45,990 --> 02:27:44,080 has grown 3569 02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:46,000 and this is where i'm at and where i 3570 02:27:51,349 --> 02:27:47,680 find myself 3571 02:27:53,510 --> 02:27:51,359 not worrying about the harvest 3572 02:27:55,590 --> 02:27:53,520 just worrying 3573 02:27:56,950 --> 02:27:55,600 that i can come here every day 3574 02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:56,960 and continue 3575 02:28:02,870 --> 02:27:59,920 to water that garden 3576 02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:02,880 to continue to make this garden grow 3577 02:28:07,830 --> 02:28:05,920 i'll worry about the harvest later 3578 02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:07,840 when i'm done 3579 02:28:13,110 --> 02:28:10,160 putting the work in that this garden 3580 02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:13,120 apparently requires 3581 02:28:16,790 --> 02:28:14,800 let me never 3582 02:28:18,469 --> 02:28:16,800 friends never 3583 02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:18,479 be too lazy 3584 02:28:23,429 --> 02:28:21,200 or too afraid to put the work in 3585 02:28:25,349 --> 02:28:23,439 because i'm too worried about 3586 02:28:27,670 --> 02:28:25,359 the harvest 3587 02:28:29,990 --> 02:28:27,680 let me worry instead 3588 02:28:30,950 --> 02:28:30,000 about just putting the work in and 3589 02:28:33,670 --> 02:28:30,960 making 3590 02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:33,680 that garden grow 3591 02:28:37,910 --> 02:28:36,479 for surely if i just keep coming here 3592 02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:37,920 every day 3593 02:28:42,230 --> 02:28:41,120 and watering this garden then surely my 3594 02:28:45,270 --> 02:28:42,240 friends 3595 02:28:47,429 --> 02:28:45,280 this garden will continue to grow 3596 02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:47,439 and that's all i'm after 3597 02:28:52,070 --> 02:28:49,120 lately 3598 02:28:54,309 --> 02:28:52,080 that's the only expectation that i have 3599 02:28:56,070 --> 02:28:54,319 everything else 3600 02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:56,080 it is what it is 3601 02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:58,399 as far as some of the drama rama i keep 3602 02:29:02,630 --> 02:29:00,399 trying to avoid it 3603 02:29:05,429 --> 02:29:02,640 but it seems like every time i think i'm 3604 02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:05,439 out i can pull back in 3605 02:29:10,469 --> 02:29:07,600 maybe i need more discipline maybe i 3606 02:29:12,630 --> 02:29:10,479 need uh more things to work on so that i 3607 02:29:14,950 --> 02:29:12,640 don't go reading nasty comments on 3608 02:29:18,389 --> 02:29:14,960 twitter or 3609 02:29:23,349 --> 02:29:20,550 [\h__\h] talking things i don't know i you 3610 02:29:27,030 --> 02:29:23,359 know 3611 02:29:28,550 --> 02:29:27,040 recently that things only affect you if 3612 02:29:29,830 --> 02:29:28,560 you let them 3613 02:29:31,990 --> 02:29:29,840 but 3614 02:29:33,110 --> 02:29:32,000 i suppose the problem is is like 3615 02:29:37,270 --> 02:29:33,120 this big 3616 02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:37,280 drama rama stuff pops up and you go 3617 02:29:41,030 --> 02:29:39,280 do i gotta read this do i gotta listen 3618 02:29:42,630 --> 02:29:41,040 to this do i gotta respond to this on 3619 02:29:46,790 --> 02:29:42,640 the next show 3620 02:29:51,110 --> 02:29:46,800 and uh mostly lately i think i i know i 3621 02:29:52,150 --> 02:29:51,120 don't and no i won't and i i feel better 3622 02:29:53,510 --> 02:29:52,160 that way 3623 02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:53,520 i'm just going to try to keep trucking 3624 02:29:58,150 --> 02:29:56,000 along here and that's where we're at and 3625 02:29:59,510 --> 02:29:58,160 that's where we find ourselves and i'm 3626 02:30:01,349 --> 02:29:59,520 so glad that you could come here and 3627 02:30:04,070 --> 02:30:01,359 spend some more time 3628 02:30:05,270 --> 02:30:04,080 as we continue this enduring mysteries 3629 02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:05,280 uh 3630 02:30:08,630 --> 02:30:07,200 series 3631 02:30:09,990 --> 02:30:08,640 you always hear me say this friends i'm 3632 02:30:12,710 --> 02:30:10,000 always happy when there's an audience 3633 02:30:14,950 --> 02:30:12,720 tonight we had a great one exploring uh 3634 02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:14,960 what was a new topic for us many people 3635 02:30:19,110 --> 02:30:17,040 have asked me to cover this topic uh for 3636 02:30:22,309 --> 02:30:19,120 the past two years just never quite got 3637 02:30:24,790 --> 02:30:22,319 to it tonight we did it's another 3638 02:30:26,630 --> 02:30:24,800 uh journey really 3639 02:30:27,670 --> 02:30:26,640 a personal journey that i shared with 3640 02:30:29,590 --> 02:30:27,680 all of you 3641 02:30:32,389 --> 02:30:29,600 it's a journey that is now 3642 02:30:33,590 --> 02:30:32,399 uh was on my to-do list and is now on my 3643 02:30:35,190 --> 02:30:33,600 done list 3644 02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:35,200 and 3645 02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:36,960 sometimes just a pure act of 3646 02:30:41,590 --> 02:30:38,560 accomplishment 3647 02:30:43,190 --> 02:30:41,600 is enough to bring you some satisfaction 3648 02:30:44,790 --> 02:30:43,200 um 3649 02:30:46,710 --> 02:30:44,800 and 3650 02:30:48,309 --> 02:30:46,720 i encourage you if you have some things 3651 02:30:49,990 --> 02:30:48,319 on your list of things to do that you 3652 02:30:52,710 --> 02:30:50,000 really need to do 3653 02:30:55,510 --> 02:30:52,720 uh get them done 3654 02:30:59,110 --> 02:30:55,520 you'll be glad you did 3655 02:31:01,670 --> 02:30:59,120 nobody ever regrets finishing something 3656 02:31:03,670 --> 02:31:01,680 well sometimes but most of the time not 3657 02:31:05,830 --> 02:31:03,680 you do your best you keep trucking 3658 02:31:07,910 --> 02:31:05,840 through you overcome the obstacles 3659 02:31:09,670 --> 02:31:07,920 towards getting that thing done and out 3660 02:31:11,830 --> 02:31:09,680 there in the universe in a reality and 3661 02:31:14,070 --> 02:31:11,840 tonight i got another show another true 3662 02:31:16,550 --> 02:31:14,080 secret show out there into the ether and 3663 02:31:20,710 --> 02:31:16,560 that's really sometimes all i can ask 3664 02:31:24,389 --> 02:31:22,950 so you always hear me say this i'm 3665 02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:24,399 always happy when there's an audience 3666 02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:25,840 thank you all for coming here and being 3667 02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:28,399 part of mine until next time friends